Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 33
# 1 Earning ZEN?
08-20-2012, 09:59 PM
Has anyone tried this earning zen business? fill out surveys and what not?

do you actually get awarded the ZEN promised?

I've tried and filled out 4-6 this past week and done exactly what the requirements told me to....only to get nothing...and cryptic/PWE wont/cant deal with it and keeps referring me to the 3rd party survey company's website....

any tips/suggestions/personal stories of people actually getting the promised ZEN?
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 86
# 2
08-20-2012, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by groomlake32 View Post
Has anyone tried this earning zen business? fill out surveys and what not?

do you actually get awarded the ZEN promised?

I've tried and filled out 4-6 this past week and done exactly what the requirements told me to....only to get nothing...and cryptic/PWE wont/cant deal with it and keeps referring me to the 3rd party survey company's website....

any tips/suggestions/personal stories of people actually getting the promised ZEN?
It's third party issue. If they don't report your participation to PWE, then you get nothing.
I did do one of the survey ones, ONCE, but now my registered email is bombarded with spam mails that i was required to recieve for the participation.

It's all "free at your own risk".
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 773
# 3
08-20-2012, 10:07 PM
IT is a hit or miss business. And alot of the time you will fail fo simply not having an iPhone

It USE to be worth your time early on, when a 5-minute survey gave you ~300-400 zen. Recently i did one survey for a half hour and only got 84 zen for my troubles. So meh.

However, I did eventually scrape up 800 zen which was enough to give me a head start on bank slot unlocks and the like.

The key is to lie. Don't even attempt to be honest with these vultures unless you absolutely have to in order to unlock the zen. I've taken auto insurance surveys and i don't even own a car Just follow the same rule as before on the internet about handing out personal information. Because you WILL get spam. On your phone, in your email, at your house, ect.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 251
# 4
08-20-2012, 10:19 PM
So Earning Zen is actually an Advertising Money Maker for PWE? blah
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 5
08-20-2012, 11:07 PM
You're better off grinding out Dil and playing the exchange. Not as fast a Zen maker, but won't hurt your spam filter.
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Lieutenant
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Posts: 66
# 6
08-20-2012, 11:47 PM
I've had some good luck with the surveys and whatnot. I've also had a lot of bad luck with them too. Sometimes it's a crap-shoot (I'm referencing an actual table-game here) with the qualifier questions, like which opertating system your phone uses, but there's plenty of times I've gone through the whole thing and got the zen. One was for 349 zen, was definately pleased that it went through once I was done with the survey.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 658
# 7
08-21-2012, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tdon7 View Post
You're better off grinding out Dil and playing the exchange. Not as fast a Zen maker, but won't hurt your spam filter.
Yeah just farm dil in-game. 4 toons x 8,000 dilithium refined per day = 32k dil which is quite a lot of zen given the ultra low exchange rates this season.

Some fleetmates and I farmed out 2.5k zen for the Regent class in a matter of weeks. One reported farming more than 1.3k zen in -one week-. It's not impossible.

The PWE surveys don't even appear for me as I'm based in Asia. Probably NA/Canada only?
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 8
08-21-2012, 03:34 AM
I've done it, set up a totally separate E-mail address because of course filling in these things is a MASSIVE spam magnet.
Of course only do the ones that don't require any credit card details or to downloading anything! If you do these you probably end up defrauded and virus ridden.

So generally its filling in surveys. . . in about half an hour I got 400 Zen. . . only about 30% of the ones you do will actually credit you with anything.

The whole thing is a MASSIVE scam designed to bombard you with spam and Trojans, but if you just apply pretty standard "Internet smarts" then you can get a little bit of something out of it.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 70
# 9
08-21-2012, 04:52 AM
I only do the surveys. If it requires a download or a separate sign-up page, I'll close the tab faster than [CENSORED] through a slipstream-equipped goose. Those are, and will always be, pitiful excuses to get useless crap onto your hard drive. Or, worse, get your e-mail address unintentionally signed up for yet another round of male organ enlargement pills or female augmentation creams or Yet Another Business Opportunity NOW For Only US$1999.99 (plus HKD359.99 maintenance fee per month that will never be cancelled regardless of how many times you block the charges from your credit card) or the ever popular HI MITSER MISS X I AM NIGERIAN JENREAL THAT CAN HAS UR ACCOUNT INFO FOR NINETEEN POINT EIGHT BILLION EUROS.

Yet surveys generally run through your PWE/Cryptic accounts, and will not automatically spam the crap out of your mailbox. Or at least mine hasn't gotten excessively spammed, and I have a gaming-exclusive email account set up so that not everyone on the planet can get hold of my friends-and-relatives account. (Yes. I have 6 different email addresses via 4 different providers. Yes, it gets complicated. Yes, I occasionally get them mixed up. Yes, I tend to forget my passwords on a semi-regular basis. And yes, I do it entirely for personal information security, so yes, it's worth the hassle.)

Also, as someone who has done surveys during spare time for certain other websites, I can also say that PWE gives us a MUCH better time-to-earning ratio than any other program I've ever been involved with. Whether via another Peanut Labs-affiliated website or a completely different program, or even Amazon's non-mechanical Mechanical Turk programs, I'd say PWE gives us an extra 50% of the cut (at a minimum) compared to everybody else I've gone through.

Quote:
Originally Posted by eagledraco View Post
So Earning Zen is actually an Advertising Money Maker for PWE? blah
Of course they make money off of us by doing this! If they didn't, it wouldn't be called "Earn ZEN" on the dropdown tab. They get more than the standard ZEN price for our submissions, yet we get ZEN for little more than extra ice packs for our carpal tunnel syndrome. Win-win.

But you have to be smart about it. Treat it like any other questionable website out there. Don't download anything. Don't put out your email address. Don't kiss strange boys. Don't forget to wash behind your ears. And don't, for the love of every Deity ever worshiped in the history of all Humanity, DO NOT POST YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION. Or anyone else's credit card information.

Not even my ex-fiancee's. May have been the biggest lying, manipulative, evil, two-faced bucket of septic tank slime mold waste that ever crawled into a rotten bilge, but nothing is worth that much hell.
Captain
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# 10
08-21-2012, 05:22 AM
I've done 10 Surveys and been paid on 6 of them. Some of the Surveys are sneaky, though. They have questions hidden within them like: "If you're reading this question check box 3." It's designed to make people read all of the questions and not just spam-bot them. If you get that answer incorrect you don't get paid. Many of them also have timers - they how long it takes to go through and answer the questions and if someone does them too quickly it's assumed they didn't read, they just picked random answers. If you do it too quickly, again, you won't get paid. The Surveyors aren't stupid. If they're going to pay PW they want to know they're getting real data.

The best chance to collect on a Survey is to really think about what they're wanting to know as you take it - and don't pick Surveys you have no interest in. If you're not into shoes don't pick a shoe Survey. They odd are very good you won't get paid for it.
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