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# 11
08-26-2012, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Doctor who ?

Some of the biggies

the movie declares the Doctor half human (previously stated to be genetically impossible)
the chronology has been rewritten at least 12 times

three seperate origins for the Cybermen

etc
I knew there had to be a few in there...
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# 12
08-26-2012, 05:46 PM
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Still too many plot holes, the entire thing has to take place in an alternate reality to not break continuity.

The whole movie DOES take place in an alternate timeline. Since Nero's ship was punching through reality as soon as the lights dimmed. However, Everything that is establish BEFORE that second is canon. For Example, George Kirk DID serve onboard the USS Kelvin. Also, everything that was established in the mindmeld, Romulus Exploding, The Jellyfish being built, and Nero's enraged pursuit of Spock, all of that takes place in the Alpha timeline, not the Beta. Therefore, all of that is still cannon, as far as this universe goes. Which is why Romulus is destroyed and Spock is still MIA, presumed KIA.

Still canon. And still relevant to us as the collapse of the Romulan Star Empire is what fueled this war between the Klingon Empire and the Federation. It is also heavily implied in the missions that the Iconians were involved in that.
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# 13
08-26-2012, 10:51 PM
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I'm sure Dr. Who might also have messed up timelines, but I haven't watched enough of the series to be sure...
Messed up timelines, you can say that again.

There's the Total Event Collapse of the universe at the end of Series 5 (That's every star in the universe going supernova at every moment in history) and the subsequent "rebooting" of it via the second Big Bang.

There's the disintegration of time at the end of Series 6 that led to every moment in history happening simultaneously.

There's the parallel world where humans created the Cybermen

Then there's the Often mentioned, rarely seen Last Great Time War

There's probably hundereds more examples I can think of as well, that's probably one of the reasons for the show's longevity, 50 years old next November
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# 14
08-26-2012, 10:58 PM
Does the constant rewriting of Star Wars count?
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# 15
08-27-2012, 02:40 AM
Doctor Who
Red Dwarf (Though I think continuity takes second place to comedy)

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# 16
08-27-2012, 06:26 AM
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Messed up timelines, you can say that again.

There's the Total Event Collapse of the universe at the end of Series 5 (That's every star in the universe going supernova at every moment in history) and the subsequent "rebooting" of it via the second Big Bang.

There's the disintegration of time at the end of Series 6 that led to every moment in history happening simultaneously.

There's the parallel world where humans created the Cybermen

Then there's the Often mentioned, rarely seen Last Great Time War

There's probably hundereds more examples I can think of as well, that's probably one of the reasons for the show's longevity, 50 years old next November
To be fair though... in Doctor Who temporal paradoxes are part of the series premise. The Tennant version of the Doctor specifically stated that the time stream was fluid and constantly changing due to time travel.
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# 17
08-27-2012, 06:33 AM
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# 18
08-27-2012, 10:57 AM
Thats the beauty of imagination, you can have as many different timelines as you want but the reality is that there is only ONE.

Einstien got it wrong too.
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# 19
08-27-2012, 12:58 PM
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White hole spewing time engines dead air supply low advice please.
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# 20
08-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Don't forget Futurama. Fry is his own grandfather.
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