Ensign
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# 1 PvP Advice Sort 1v1's
08-30-2012, 05:01 PM
Hi All,

im looking for some advice as a sci player to take on a Tac Escort Prometheus or Defiant in a 1v1 situation, is it possible to even win? and if it is can you offer any advice on ship and build to perform the task

reason why is a nice little wager with the fleet leader! so all help appreciated!
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# 2
08-30-2012, 06:08 PM
All those things are important, but how good is he? If he's rubbish then there's less to worry.
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# 3
08-31-2012, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by aquitaine985 View Post
All those things are important, but how good is he? If he's rubbish then there's less to worry.
It is always enlightening to read the PvP forums, and this is why.

Seriously, though: In theory, it should be possible to do that with any type of ship (though sci ships are a bit underpowered), but to select the best route, you need to take into account how your captain's skillpoints are distributed - so, what is your captain specced like?
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# 4
08-31-2012, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nightshade2k99 View Post
Hi All,

im looking for some advice as a sci player to take on a Tac Escort Prometheus or Defiant in a 1v1 situation, is it possible to even win? and if it is can you offer any advice on ship and build to perform the task

reason why is a nice little wager with the fleet leader! so all help appreciated!
You don't mention what ships you can use, but it's plausible using VM & Tykens (w/doffs), TB, TSSx, and Torps after they're shut down. The point is to offline his/her subsystems and use Torps to finish him/her off. It won't be easy b/c evasive & eng battery will get most escorts out of most traps 1v1 and you won't likely be able to catch them using a Sci boat. Also, sci's don't have a big window to max debuffs for a killing blow.

I'm going to guess you'd have enough firepower w/a Fleet MVAE to possibly do the job as well. You could use 2xTB w/SNB to keep out of their forward arc while keeping them in yours. I just don't know if you'd have the firepower as Sci to finish them off, you have to time your debuffs well and probably use BO on the debuffed target. W/MVAE you should be able to chase them down if they try and run. But, you're also vulnerable if they break their TB hold and you are baited into thinking you've got them and they spike a GDF boosted high alpha combo.

It's feasible, but you're better off in a tandom fight w/a high Alpha to support.
Rihannsu
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# 5
08-31-2012, 12:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightshade2k99 View Post
Hi All,

im looking for some advice as a sci player to take on a Tac Escort Prometheus or Defiant in a 1v1 situation, is it possible to even win? and if it is can you offer any advice on ship and build to perform the task

reason why is a nice little wager with the fleet leader! so all help appreciated!
Yes, it is possible to do so. Things you have to do:

Watch for Tac buffs. Especially Go down fighting after being hurt badly. Probobly the best time to use a Sub Nuc is right if they have fully Buffed for an "Alpha" strike.

Avoid enemy Escort Arc. If you aren't flying an Escort your self, use any thing you can to hurt his/her turn rate. (Viral Matrix + Doffs, Chronoton Procs, even Target subsystem: Engines can be useful and don't forget tractor beams)

Photonic Shockwave can be helpful for a moment to stop the escort from fireing for a second and the knock back can some times help.

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Ensign
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# 6
08-31-2012, 12:57 AM
Thanks for the Advice so far guys, forgot to mention ships i have sorry

i have available

MVAM
Nebula
DSSV
Oddy
Defiant
etc

ill list out my skill points later when i get home but i have retrain tokens available just for this little wager
Survivor of Romulus
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# 7
08-31-2012, 01:32 AM
Well, then I would propose to use the MVAM or the Defiant. Escorts are the easiest to command if you want to kill stuff. Search the forums for a Sci escort build for it, that should give you all to need to deliver a good fight.
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# 8
08-31-2012, 05:42 AM
I can help you come up with a ship to counter general escorts. Join the "Sad Panda Cubs" channel where you can get advice from various Pandas. And no, we dont teach Panda hax

Science toons are under powered, but not as much as people want you to believe. They are underpowered compared to what they used to be IMO and thats it.
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# 9
08-31-2012, 06:40 AM
Thanks Naz that would be brilliant! Plus i like pandas!
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# 10
08-31-2012, 07:03 AM
Take Naz's offer and join the Panda's. It is the best route.

I would consider the MVAM as your vessel of choice to fight Escort with Escort, plus the heavy Tac BOff set-up with a LTC Science back-up would be helpful in shutting the other escort down.
If you can use Sensor Scan, the Sensor Scan DOff (that shutsdown damage output) may be helpful as well.
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