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So, we all know that Tholian Lockboxes are gonna stop dropping on the 20th. Ok, np there.

This is probably gonna be a long post, so if you don't wanna read, better to move on.

But, it does get me to wondering, what is the next one going to be, what will it have, what won't it have, etc? So, here's my thoughts, hopes, etc on the next lockbox, including the future of the Lobi store:

1. The 'big prize' ship, ok, whatever it is, I don't really mind. I like the lockbox ships, so whatever it is, I bet it'll be good. The same also applies for any lobi-store ship (except shuttles), I don't mind what it is either.

2. New cross-faction console. We know it'll happen. The last one was great, especially for the KDF, with them getting Point Defense, which is awesome really, while Feds got Subspace Jump, also a very good console. I can only hope we have good choices once more.

3. Lesser ship prizes. I like the MU ships, because they are pretty much re-skins of ships we have, which is fine, but also nice because it's a guaranteed ship for F2Ps, who don't get an RA ship for free. So, add in a new ship or two like that, and I won't mind it.

4. The small prizes: all the random mishmash of stuff you usually tend to get. Ok, now, I know we'll have these, but I feel like it's too little sometimes. Like random deflectors or personal armors. Those really aren't worth getting, I'm not asking you to get rid of em, since I know they will have to be there, but everything needs to be worth getting is all.

5. Keep a bonus pool item. I've always liked these, and I wonder if we will get a new one from the next box, but even an old one is still good. Heck, maybe an 'all around boost', which gives a little boost to all areas would be nice (or at least skill points and Commendation xp)

6. No gold boxes still. It's good that we don't have gold Tholian boxes, and I don't miss the old golds either.

7. Less random boxes, more guaranteed stuff. This is kinda going on the small prizes again, I don't mind them, but getting random items after getting random items is rather annoying. So, just tell us exactly what we're gonna get, don't make it a gamble, within a gamble...and obvious joke there.

8. More new and unique items. Like for example, the Phased Tetryon weapons we got this time. I don't like the randomness again, but at least these are new, so they are worth getting. In the next lockbox, if again we have new items worth getting, I think we'll be good to go.


1. Keep the guaranteed lobi, at least 4 still, preferably more (WITHOUT increasing lobi prices).

2. I'd really like a lobi converter, as in, prizes (only if still packed, and only the smaller prizes) could be sold and made into lobi. Doesn't have to be a lot, like 1 lobi for most random stuff you get, with larger amounts for bigger prizes, like an MU ship would be worth more. This is especially godd for the old box prizes, like the Cardassian box, since it was before lobi.

Sure it means people would buy en masse the smaller prizes, but that's their choice, to either buy or sell stuff. At least it would keep the market prices interesting. Again, this goes on the fact of making all prizes worth getting, since if you get nothing you want, you can just convert it and save up a little easier.

Besides, we can do that with other prizes, like the Winter Event, that was great that all the random stuff we got, could just be tossed into a vendor for latinum, not the best thing we could want, but still good.

3. I'd really like more chances of extra lobi. Like a really nice, 'alternative' grand prize would be a huge chunk of lobi. Give it about the same chance as a lockbox ship, maybe a little more, so at least if somebody does hit it, they really have won a prize worth winning.

4. Lobi really needs to be transferable between characters. If it's bound to account on pickup, that's ok, I don't mind not being able to trade it to others, but at least let me focus it on character, so all those seperate lockbox openings are worth putting together.

Lobi store:

1. Please re-add the old lobi items. Even as a seperate vendor, and even without some of the big prizes (like the Recluse we have now, or the Photonic Tactical officer). Mostly this means like the Ferengi Marauder set. But also things like all those costume pieces, would be great to still be able to buy and get, without having to buy them from the exchange.

What'd also be really nice, is if the old items get a discount, mostly in the costume pieces at the very least.

1a. Similar idea. On the other end of the spectrum, being able to buy some of the smaller prizes from old boxes. Like the old DS9 Uniform Set, or the Holographic Combat Drone. Basically, it lets you use lobi to buy things you wanna buy. You still have to open the boxes to get lobi, but it gives you more options on what to do with it.

2. The consumables are pricy, I really wish they weren't quite so much, or at least they gave more per purchase. I mean, one lobi for a Personal Combat Module isn't very good, because it means I have to open a minimum of 5 boxes (at 4 lobi each), for a full 20 stack of those without going to the exchange.

I'm ok with not like buying a full stack, but even a 5 stack would be nice per lobi. So that would mean by opening one box, and getting my 4 lobi, I could buy a full stack of Personal Combat Modules, plus whatever I got outta the box. That, to me, is a good thing.

One single box, becomes a full stack of consumable items, which, ok, I'll use up, but at least they are good items, and worth using without having to essentially 'grind lobi' just to get a full stack.

The team items I can understand with a higher price, but it needs double the above for one stack, and while they are great, they ARE pricy, and makes me really not wanna buy em.

And that's about all I got atm. I know, this was long, so, if tl;dr...

Here's my biggest point:

All prizes need to be worth winning. It's much better from what it used to be of course, but I don't feel like it's quite all the way there yet. As long as they're willing to do that much, I don't think people will complain as much about lockboxes.

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# 2
09-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Pretty much agree that a lot of the Tholian series features should continue in the next set.

Special Doff packs are nice, especially when they fit with the 'theme'.

And I liked that the uncommon MU ships were both a slightly modified setup and a costume unlock. I like using a MU ship on one character, but I appreciate the costume on another. This sort of dual use should continue.

Unique weapon types are also nice. I enjoyed collecting or buying them for one of my ships, but they were also useful if I happened to find a ground version i liked.

I enjoyed finding out what all the ground pets were last time around. I wouldn't be disappointed if the next series didn't have a set of pets, but I think it should continue when appropriate.
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# 3
09-07-2012, 01:28 AM
It's All but officially confirmed the Wells Class will be the next big prize.
That means the next Lockbox theme will be timetravel based.

Things coming to mind fitting the theme:
29th century uniform and ground weapons
Time Agent doff
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# 4
09-07-2012, 01:37 AM
Wells Class... Nuff said
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# 5
09-07-2012, 01:50 AM
Wells class my ar**. You imagine Klingons flying in that thing? It can't be a Fed ship, nor it can be a KDF ship.
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# 6
09-07-2012, 01:57 AM
Originally Posted by jjumetley View Post
Wells class my ar**. You imagine Klingons flying in that thing? It can't be a Fed ship, nor it can be a KDF ship.
If this were the case, it would most likely work like the Mirror ships. If you're on a KDF character when you get a Mirror ship, it's a Mirror Vor'cha. If the character is a Fed, you get the Mirror Assault/Star Cruiser.

So, yes, it can be a Fed or KDF ship. In fact, if it is, that encourages people to open more lockboxes on characters from both factions, so they can get both. KDF ones will also be more rare, and thus will sell for more on the exchange if I don't want them (see Mirror ship prices on the exchange); considering my main is a Gorn, this suits me just fine.
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# 7
09-07-2012, 02:15 AM
Let's not forget there was a KDF future ship too, the name escapes me but there were screenshots of it and its hull type "future" which was red body with white trim iirc. I think the name was Koroth class, not too sure.

Anyhoo I think the time ships are part of season 7 and escaped too early, the mirror ships in the last one were a secondary prize while the main prize was cross faction and I don't see those time ships being that common when they do show up in whatever way they do.

It'll probably be a ship from one of the races closer to home, maybe Reman with a 4th set bonus added to the Reman set which only works with the ship. Just a guess.
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# 8
09-07-2012, 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by jjumetley View Post
Wells class my ar**. You imagine Klingons flying in that thing? It can't be a Fed ship, nor it can be a KDF ship.
there is a leaked KDF ship so i imagine if its the lockbox than the faction decides what ship comes out of it.

i had expected the timeships to be the 1000 day rewards but there have been a few hints the lockbox is a time themed one. which could be cool.

i liked the tholian box a lot. i think something very similar would be fine. i really want to see the temporal agent uniform that was in relativity and to a lesser extend the one that daniels wore in enterprise.

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# 9
09-07-2012, 02:55 AM
Originally Posted by Dstahl
Dstahl: Only "time" will tell what the next Lock Box is....
Sounds pretty obvious. I like this, though I guess the Wells would be a science ship too? The Tholian prize ship already was a sci ship. I wouldn't mind an affordable new lockbox escort since the bugship is pretty much unobtainable below 400 million EC.
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# 10
09-07-2012, 03:28 AM
Well, I guess that leaves the question of the 1000 day veteran reward 100% open again....

@ topic

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