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# 11
09-07-2012, 06:18 AM
While I agree with you on the last project, the display frames were not really well placed. The curved wall that they are placed on does interfere, bleeds through and blocks most of the text at the top of the display frames. It would also help if the made the text bolder and outlined it so it could define it more clearly. Perhaps they could also change the text to be less reflective as the light can make it hard to read.

However, I have no other problem with previous projects. The bar area has a nice layout with the chairs, chess, benches and mood lights. With tribbles and plants scattered around if you had installed the previous vanity projects, it looks like a very cozy area to relax in.

Our fleet has purchased every limited "vanity" project that has come out and we will continue to complete them, they offer a nice warm touch, to what could be a very cold looking interior.
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# 12
09-07-2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by defalus View Post
How about a game of spot the difference with these two Ent-A pictures:

A
B

One of the most iconic ships in the ST universe and they can't even get the basics right.
I'm having trouble with what you are pointing out. You mean the diference in Defectors?
Picture "A" is obviously an in-game screenie used for the diplay, while "B" is a movie screenie.
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# 13
09-07-2012, 06:22 AM
Hey, something seems to be missing between HMS Enterprise and CVN-65...what happened to CV-6?
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# 14
09-07-2012, 06:25 AM
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Hey, something seems to be missing between HMS Enterprise and CVN-65...what happened to CV-6?
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Originally Posted by kobayashlmaru
Fair enough, I just recall him talking about it in that episode. Another possible (less obvious) mistake is there were multiple sailing ships named Enterprise, both in RL and in ST lore. Along with the one depicted in his quarters, the HMS Enterprize which was depicted in the opening credits. Why is this one missing as well?

To my original point though, I'm still in shock how is it possible that they missed the most important ship in the history of the Enterprise? This is like a stab in the heart for a game based on this IP. Pictures of the carrier are featured in almost every mention of Enterprise lineage in Star Trek for crying out loud. Yet despite this omission they still have the presence of mind to put in XCV-330.

I won't be doing this project in pure protest of that big mistake. I thought it was a great idea otherwise.
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http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5607011&postcount=46

When we were deciding which ships to include in this set of images it became clear quickly that we did not want to include EVERY ship from Earth history named "Enterprise." This was not a mistake, but a conscious decision to focus on certain representative samples from the history of that name.

To your first point, one of the tall ships named HMS Enterprise is included in this set of images - it's visible in that screenshot on the far left. I did some research on all the sailing ships named "Enterprise" and decided to go with a British frigate built in 1775 - the decision to include this particular ship was mainly a nod to the opening credits of the the TV show Enterprise and to increase the diversity of the ships represented a bit more. There were a few United States Ships named "Enterprise", but they were smaller ships - I felt the mission of the 18th century frigate, a fast, powerful and independent command, was more appropriate to the name's legacy than any number of the other manifestations from that era.

On to your point about the CV-6, the original "Big E" and the most decorated ship in the US Navy. Ultimately I decided to include CVN-65 over CV-6 for a couple of major reasons. The primary reason was that the CVN-65 Enterprise was the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. She was (and is) a unique and revolutionary design and important milestone in the history of propulsion, naval or otherwise. While the CV-6 had an unmatched record in battle, I felt the technological revolution of the CVN-65 made it more likely that she'd be commemorated by Starfleet, an organization hundreds of years removed from single-planet international conflicts. Secondly, the CVN-65 is actually a setting for action in a Star Trek adventure (STIV, although another ship stands in for her during filming).

While I agree that it's an incredible ship with an important place in history, I'd also dispute your claim that CV-6 has been represented in every depiction of Enterprise lineage. Both the observation lounge on the Enterprise D and Archer's ready room cherry pick their Enterprises, and in both celebrations of Enterprise lineage they chose CVN-65 over CV-6. (You can tell it's the CVN-65 by the shape of the deck and the distinctive square shape of the island.)

It's also worth noting that for the observation lounge of the 1701-E, they don't include models of any pre-space Enterprises at all!

Obviously in a project like this, everyone has their favorites - but even if yours didn't make it in I hope you get a chance to see the set and enjoy it in the game.

Another question from this thread I noticed: The Enterprise C is present in this series. To dispel any rumors, the art for that panel was created based on a screenshot from "Yesterday's Enterprise."
Hope that helps.
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# 15
09-07-2012, 06:27 AM
Another issue with the current project is the omission of the famous World War II carrier, USS Enterprise CV-6, from which IRL the Star Trek Enterprise was named after. You have the CVN-65 on here, but no CV-6 which is a real ship and its portrait even appears on screen.

EDIT: Thanks for posting the comment above. Good to see this decision wasn't made carelessly. Still disappointing though.
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# 16
09-07-2012, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by darkstarkirian View Post
I'm having trouble with what you are pointing out. You mean the diference in Defectors?
Picture "A" is obviously an in-game screenie used for the diplay, while "B" is a movie screenie.
The deflector is one, the saucer colouring is a second and having been so long since I actually used a connie I'm not sure if the connie model in the game can have nacelles with no blue light on them.

I just like the movie versions of the connie so sorry for my nit picking, given the nature of the potraits I just thought they could have at least got it closer to the real ship.
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# 17
09-07-2012, 06:35 AM
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Hope that helps.
Thank you, now...about my using my phone to read that thread, sometimes I just wonder if it doesn't like going to certain web pages just cause it got an attitude or a mind of its own...
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# 18
09-07-2012, 06:37 AM
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The deflector is one, the saucer colouring is a second and having been so long since I actually used a connie I'm not sure if the connie model in the game can have nacelles with no blue light on them.

I just like the movie versions of the connie so sorry for my nit picking, given the nature of the potraits I just thought they could have at least got it closer to the real ship.
Ok, ya the game screenie one definately has one of the paint jobs on it, probably the Andromeda which is the "default" paint on all the ships.

They might have not been able to use the movie picture because of the Parmount/CBS issues, but could take a shot of "their" in game ships no problem.
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# 19
09-07-2012, 06:45 AM
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To the OP:
Brilliant, thanks, didn't realise they'd already seen this and responded.

I'll amend my original post.
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# 20
09-07-2012, 09:04 AM
I just went to the dev blog to double check the picture they have there and now I'm wondering; Why doesn't the picture in the dev blog suffer the same title clipping issues as what we got ingame?
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