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# 1 Torp Boat Question
08-27-2012, 11:43 PM
I have two Warhead Yield Chambers slotted.

I understand that it stacks with the KHG 2 set bonus +25% torp damage.

I'm aware the two Yield Chambers suffer from diminishing results from each other. Is the set bonus from the KHG subject to these rules or is it counted as a unique bonus?
I'll stop kicking that horse when the bugs fixed. Until then as a paying consumer, I will voice my opinion.
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# 2
08-28-2012, 03:44 AM
Yield Chambers do not suffer from diminishing returns. Very few consoles have diminishing returns. The only ones I can think off right now with diminishing returns are resistance ones.
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# 3
09-25-2012, 11:02 AM
All your +% tac consoles and field emitters have diminishing returns.

This has been discussed to death before.

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+# seems to stack straight off.
+% seems to have diminished returns


The +35% shield cap does not stack at all.





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The Damage Resistance Equation as a formula is:
DR=(3*(0.25-(75/(150+DRM))^2))

http://www.stowiki.org/Damage_resistance
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# 4
09-26-2012, 01:33 AM
The shield capactity bonus has been stacking for months now.
And as far as I know only damage resistance has diminishing returns. Damage bonuses do not.
(Unless that has changed as well.)

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# 5
09-26-2012, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by polie05 View Post
All your +% tac consoles and field emitters have diminishing returns.

This has been discussed to death before.

http://www.stowiki.org/Damage_resistance
You are wrong tac consoles do not have diminishing returns. If the 1st tac consoles gives me 42dps then the 2nd gives me 42dps all the way up to 5th which still gives 42dps. I have to check field emitters but last I heard diminishing returns got removed but the bonus got lowered to 17% ish.

armor resistance has diminishing returns but shield resistance does not.
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# 6
09-26-2012, 04:09 AM
Flat bonuses stack, percentages don't. If you have a console that adds a +20 then adding another +20 nets you 40. But if you have a console that adds +20% that 20% of the origional total so say the origional was 100 you get 120 then you add another +20% thats 20% of 100 not 120 so you end up with 140 instead of 144.
Actualy reading things pefore posting will make you look smarter than yelling loudly. Reading comprehension is aparently a lost art.

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# 7
09-26-2012, 06:36 AM
I'm pretty certain* that Tac Consoles all stack additively without DR.

(*read: completely certain, but trying to state it somewhat gently since it conflicts with the above previously stated opinions and misinformation tends to be hard to shift...)

Tac Consoles operate based off your base DPS - not your DPS after skillpoints and weapons power and other consoles. A "+26%" console grants a DPS bonus equal to 26% of your base damage. The NEXT console grants an identical bonus, and so on and so on.

+ Unslot all consoles. Add one console. Measure DPS increase.
+ Unslot all consoles. Add two consoles - DPS increase should be double the amount added with one console.
+ Unslot all consoles. Add three consoles - DPS increase should be triple the amount added with one console.
etc. etc.

Diminishing Returns is in effect for many things, but it's not quite as cut-and-dried as "percentage boosts have DR and non percentage boosts don't"...

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# 8
09-26-2012, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by polie05 View Post
All your +% tac consoles and field emitters have diminishing returns.
Unlike maelwy5, I'll be blunt.

Tac consoles do not have diminishing returns, and maelwy5's explanation is exactly how it works.


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Originally Posted by maelwy5 View Post
I'm pretty certain* that Tac Consoles all stack additively without DR.

(*read: completely certain, but trying to state it somewhat gently since it conflicts with the above previously stated opinions and misinformation tends to be hard to shift...)

Tac Consoles operate based off your base DPS - not your DPS after skillpoints and weapons power and other consoles. A "+26%" console grants a DPS bonus equal to 26% of your base damage. The NEXT console grants an identical bonus, and so on and so on.

+ Unslot all consoles. Add one console. Measure DPS increase.
+ Unslot all consoles. Add two consoles - DPS increase should be double the amount added with one console.
+ Unslot all consoles. Add three consoles - DPS increase should be triple the amount added with one console.
etc. etc.

Diminishing Returns is in effect for many things, but it's not quite as cut-and-dried as "percentage boosts have DR and non percentage boosts don't"...

As usual.
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# 9
09-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Depends on your definition of 'DR' but to the standard person they stack additively and do not have any diminishing returns as has been stated several million times by now.
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