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# 21
09-15-2012, 08:46 PM
I never knew this silencing thing existed. Ignoring, sure; I've been on both sides of that. But GMs/Devs letting an automated system put a hammer down on a player is madness w/o some person looking into it before punishment is meted out.

Better some jerk get away with annoying everyone at ESD (till everyone ignores him) than one innocent person get banned due to juvenile malice.
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# 22
09-15-2012, 09:41 PM
More reasons to stay off of any major hub with this kind of abuse going on.

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# 23
09-15-2012, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dracounguis View Post
I never knew this silencing thing existed. Ignoring, sure; I've been on both sides of that. But GMs/Devs letting an automated system put a hammer down on a player is madness w/o some person looking into it before punishment is meted out.

Better some jerk get away with annoying everyone at ESD (till everyone ignores him) than one innocent person get banned due to juvenile malice.
Report Spam... If enough people (one is not enough) uses this function, the player in question will be silenced for 24 hours.

Granted this function can be abused, but in the long run, I'd rather not be without it... If it wasn't for it, we'd probably have entire instances filled with goldsellers.
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# 24
09-16-2012, 01:18 AM
And people wonder why I have zone and local chat disabled.

Sorry to hear of this abuse, for the OP and everyone else who has had this. Cryptic wonders why people leave, it's them that drive us away, their lack of caring, enforcing their own terms of service and their lack to fulfil what the community needs in terms of content.
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# 25
09-16-2012, 06:28 AM
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Apparently you can be silenced by anyone (or several people working cooperatively) in STO. I was sitting at the exchange minding my own business when I went to respond to a private PM. My PM didn't go through and I thought the person who PM'd me logged off. When I checked my friends list it showed them online. That's when I checked the system messages and low and behold I was silenced for 24 hours.

I immediately contacted a GM through the behavioral button. Today I got a response saying its an automated system and that I have to wait for it to expire before I can chat again...

REALLY??? Just because someone or a group of people (you know who you are since ironically I was silenced right after the harasser was standing behind me doing the running man...) want to grief someone else (God forbid), I can't chat now and Cryptic refuses to do anything about it! I mean they have logs. They can see that I am being legit and truthful. Harassment should not be tolerated by the community, STO and lastly Cryptic/PW.

They have removed these in the past for me and several others after the response "We have reviewed the circumstances surrounding your chat ban and can find no reason for it. We have opted to remove it early." (Or something similar)

If this is the way Cryptic is going to treat their customers for abiding by the "Terms of service" and not punish those who are violating for those who all following it, God help us...

I am very frustrated about this and wonder what the "Terms of Service" are even for at this point. If they aren't going to uphold them, do we really need them?

Do you actually expect Cryptic to respond...or to even care for that matter? Welcome to my world son! As players we have 2 options: Put up with whatever BS Cryptic deems is in the best interests of the game....or just stop playing. It's that simple.
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# 26
09-16-2012, 06:32 AM
Few things.

I've never heard of anyone being permanently banned for having chat bans issued multiple times. Considering how many times I've seen a friend of mine get chat banned, For random things mind you, I doubt this is a true statement.

Also I STRONGLY suggest you do not grief back using the report spam tool. Doing so is not exactly a wise idea. Fighting fire with fire never works folks

While I agree, and trust me I've been on the chat ban end of things multiple times for no reason, it's annoying, I'd rather have the system in place than without it. Like anazonda said, goldsellers would be running rampant and a GM would literally be sitting in ESD 24/7/365 instead of answering tickets (How they respond is another matter which is not what I'm talking about).

Finally, if you are being harassed by people then file a ticket. Not about the chat ban, but about the harassment AND them using the report spam system to stop you from enjoying the game. If the first one gets an automated response and it happens again, file another one referencing the first ticket ID.

That is the best way to handle it.
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# 27
09-16-2012, 06:44 AM
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Few things.

I've never heard of anyone being permanently banned for having chat bans issued multiple times. Considering how many times I've seen a friend of mine get chat banned, For random things mind you, I doubt this is a true statement.

Also I STRONGLY suggest you do not grief back using the report spam tool. Doing so is not exactly a wise idea. Fighting fire with fire never works folks

While I agree, and trust me I've been on the chat ban end of things multiple times for no reason, it's annoying, I'd rather have the system in place than without it. Like anazonda said, goldsellers would be running rampant and a GM would literally be sitting in ESD 24/7/365 instead of answering tickets (How they respond is another matter which is not what I'm talking about).

Finally, if you are being harassed by people then file a ticket. Not about the chat ban, but about the harassment AND them using the report spam system to stop you from enjoying the game. If the first one gets an automated response and it happens again, file another one referencing the first ticket ID.

That is the best way to handle it.
Yeah because Cryptic, is going to punish 10+ of their customers when they abuse 1 customer with a system they shouldn't have access too.

Do you really think Cryptic is going to do mass punishments on that scale? 10 customers make more money than 1.

Besides this fact, there is no way for a player who has been report spam abused to figure out who was abusing them thus making it even more difficult to deal with.

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# 28
09-16-2012, 07:16 AM
This thread could be moved into "The chat ban system needs an overhaul change" http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...11#post4931111 same topic and content and just sticky that one to keep more threads from poping up on the same topic...
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# 29
09-16-2012, 02:53 PM
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This thread could be moved into "The chat ban system needs an overhaul change" http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...11#post4931111 same topic and content and just sticky that one to keep more threads from poping up on the same topic...
It's sorta closed, ironic they silenced the thread about people being unjustly silenced ^.^

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# 30
09-16-2012, 03:26 PM
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Granted this function can be abused, but in the long run, I'd rather not be without it... If it wasn't for it, we'd probably have entire instances filled with goldsellers.

On ESd are people who make this for fun so you agree with what they are doing.You can stop reading a chat or add the person to ignore thus removing it from your life...of ocurse is easier to exploit a function invented by someone very "smart" than stop reading the damn chat.


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It's sorta closed, ironic they silenced the thread about people being unjustly silenced ^.^
Nope that is just to cause frustration.I mean support is zero (ok in the best case scenario you will get a useless response from support) and the game has more exploits than missions...you cant want more.
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