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Lt. Commander
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# 11
09-16-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by velktra View Post
No, they're saying that even if you play the game for free, you still have to pay real money in the C-store.
Can you read?

After the Op this person compared the Op's comment s too,

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Originally Posted by dirlettia View Post
On a phone you cannot make calls for free or do anything on the network for free and so you have to pay to do anything at all. They are not the same at all or even similar.
I simply responded to that by saying, You need the internet to play to begin with I'm not talking about having to pay for c-store stuff.

I'm aware of what other people have said I'm not saying they are wrong all I'm doing is responding to "Dirlettia" post comparing what the op posted compared to a mobile phone plan which is true you do need to be connected to make the phone calls as you do need to be connected to the Internet to play any game whether it has additional online costs or not is irrelevant.

To put it another way, "Why are games advertised Free to play when it costs money to connect to the internet?"

If your not connected to the internet you can't play this game and if you want to take it a step further you could say, "if you don't own or have access to a computer you can't play this game". last I checked computers are not free.
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# 12
09-16-2012, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ariseabove View Post
Can you read?
Can you? The OP says absolutely nothing about having to pay for internet. It says you have to pay to fill up on "extras", the stuff from the C-store. You said the OP mentioned having to pay for internet. All I said is that they didn't say that.

Get off my back.
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# 13
09-16-2012, 02:00 PM
The internet cost is irrelevant as you can get internet access for free at libraries, Macdonalds etc. This was never a part of the OP's point as they were trying to compare a F2P game to a pay as you go phone.

Free is free in this case as you can play the game without paying anything at all ever.
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# 14
09-16-2012, 02:22 PM
Well, they could call it StarTrek grindfest...
Star Trek, You to can be max level in a 3-5 days...

But those just don't have the same appeal...

Obviously, calling it Free to Play is "the hook" to get you to play in the first place.
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Lt. Commander
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# 15
09-16-2012, 03:49 PM
You can play every single mission in the entire game for free. Therefore it is free to play. If you cant understand that simple fact then you arent likely to benefit from any explanations people give you.
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# 16
09-17-2012, 05:34 AM
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~syberghost

Last edited by syberghost; 09-17-2012 at 07:13 AM.
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# 17
09-17-2012, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ariseabove View Post
The term has been used quite loosely in recent years, you may have heard about Star Wars going to F2p well thats only up to level 10 after that you have to pay for it so they are rather cheeky advertising it as such.
You are mistaken here. SWTOR is going FTP. It has not happened yet, but when it does it will not be limited to level 10. What you are referring to above is just their game demo: anyone can play to level 10. After that you must buy the game and pay a Sub feel. STO had the same thing prior to FTP - most MMOs have that. WoW goes all the way to level 20, IIRC. But that has nothing to do with SWTOR's conversion to FTP later this year.
Lt. Commander
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# 18
09-17-2012, 07:38 AM
I played plenty of F2P MMOs and this one actually delievers. The others block content off or pretty much makes it so painful for nonpaying users that they are forced to buy stuff in the stores. Here you don't have to and while store ships are good I don't see them being all that powerful.
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# 19
09-17-2012, 07:43 AM
Free to play= actually means bait and switch.......now that you are playing for free you will need all of this stuff to make it worth your time.......
Lt. Commander
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# 20
09-17-2012, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
You are mistaken here. SWTOR is going FTP. It has not happened yet, but when it does it will not be limited to level 10. What you are referring to above is just their game demo: anyone can play to level 10. After that you must buy the game and pay a Sub feel. STO had the same thing prior to FTP - most MMOs have that. WoW goes all the way to level 20, IIRC. But that has nothing to do with SWTOR's conversion to FTP later this year.
thats level 50 for one character and after this you will have to start paying in order to get further, but you are very restricted for everything else a subber can get access too, such as grouping up for raids on the side to help your experience counter and get you better kit.

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Originally Posted by rikev View Post
This is one for the entire industry.

Surely the idea is you play for free but as you use the game, you pay money? Top-up with extras and so on.

On my old phone this is called Pay As You Go not Free to Call.

each game that goes f2p needs to have a source of income, sometimes if means limiting some game play to do it, then its their way, you have to learn to adapt around it. even playing the game costs you time and the more dilithium you mine to convert is also another way of paying towards the costs of STO. in real life nothing is free either, neither is a plan for pay as you go on a phone but your life is free as you can do as you like, to choose your actions.

the free to play is a good model, as you can play this game as far as like and the best bit is you do not actually have to put any money into it, just some time and effort. so it is free.

Last edited by varool; 09-17-2012 at 08:20 AM.
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