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# 21
09-17-2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by palpha2clearance View Post
Free to play= actually means bait and switch.......now that you are playing for free you will need all of this stuff to make it worth your time.......
You can play every mission in the entire game for free. You dont need anything from the C-store to do that. If you dont think the entertainment you get from playing the game is "worth your time", then it simply isnt the game for you. But that has nothing to do with the subject of F2P.

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# 22
09-17-2012, 10:49 AM
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Free to play= actually means bait and switch.......now that you are playing for free you will need all of this stuff to make it worth your time.......
You don'r "NEED" any of it, as others have pointed out quite well they are just the icing on the cake, the cake itself is free.

The argument about paying for the internet is I see totally irrelevant, you may as well say you have to pay for the electricity, the house to put it in, the food you need to eat to live each day in able to continue playing.

It is called F2P because it is.

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# 23
09-17-2012, 10:59 AM
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It's Free to Play the plainest meaning of the phrase. And it's not too hard to figure it out especially since the game didn't start out that way. Got it, yet? I'll wait....


Times up. STo was a subscription based games at the start. And converted over to the Free To Play model. So the phrase means you don't need recurring subscription in order to access the game and play it, nothing more. Generally you have a plain, no frills, economy version of the game. If you want more? Well, that'll cost ya.
My billing history agrees with you.
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# 24 Free to play
09-19-2012, 07:49 AM
The idea behind a free to play game is as follows, you pay no monthly subscription costs or any game running costs on anysort. However the only glitch in this is the additional content, the majority of content on the Zen store or Dilithium store do require you, as the player, to make a financial contribution. By parting with your hardearned cash!
So it technically isn`t free to play!

But by buying nothing on the Zen or Dilithium stores, I can play for FREE!!
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You don'r "NEED" any of it, as others have pointed out quite well they are just the icing on the cake, the cake itself is free.

The argument about paying for the internet is I see totally irrelevant, you may as well say you have to pay for the electricity, the house to put it in, the food you need to eat to live each day in able to continue playing.

It is called F2P because it is.

Taking into account matt`s argument. You have to pay for the food you need to eat and the house to keep it in. And even the work you need to do to ensure you can keep the house, to buy food, to keep playing on the game.

So in retrospects it is and isn`t a F2P!
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# 26
09-19-2012, 08:35 AM
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Taking into account matt`s argument. You have to pay for the food you need to eat and the house to keep it in. And even the work you need to do to ensure you can keep the house, to buy food, to keep playing on the game.

So in retrospects it is and isn`t a F2P!
By that logic nothing is free since it costs money just to survive.
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# 27
09-19-2012, 08:40 AM
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By that logic nothing is free since it costs money just to survive.
HA! In fact, even dying costs money, what with funerals etc. Geez, the universe is nothing but a blatant cash grab. I tell you, it's a slap in the face!

/tongue in cheek
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# 28
09-19-2012, 10:29 AM
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Free to play= actually means bait and switch.......now that you are playing for free you will need all of this stuff to make it worth your time.......
That's a very individual decision. You can always simply quit the game. Hence it's truly free to play (except ISP charges), although not everything in the game will come without having to invest either time or money to obtain.

The notion of competing with others, it's all in a persons' mind, you can succumb to it (invest money), work through it (invest time) or quit the game entirely. The choice is always yours and to actually PLAY the game, you don't need to BUY anything from the C-Store.

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...nothing is free since it costs money just to survive.
Nothing is free, unless you can create something out of nothing, and since you'll have to spend something during that creation process, you're already using something to create something else, hence you're merely converting not creating. Everybody got that?
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# 29
09-19-2012, 11:10 AM
"Free to Play" implies that there are things that aren't free; otherwise it'd just be called "Free".

You can play the game for free. Cryptic is more honest in their definition of "free to play" than just about anybody in the industry, and in STO even more so than in CO; you can play all the way to and through endgame without having to spend a nickel.

Some other free games charge you for access to storyline quests, basic consumables, or other things you can't realistically do without and be said to be playing the entire game. STO doesn't do that.

If you're wanting a GW-style "pay once, and never again", you'd have to also accept "no content will ever be added again". GW charges full price for expansions, and they don't even really expand the game; they just start you over again in a new game that looks exactly like the old one, and could be played completely independently of it.

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# 30
09-19-2012, 01:32 PM
I play with my first FED toon to lvl 1 to 50 without paying a cent. I take all free ships, converted dilithium to get Zen and take a lot of things without opening my wallet. Is really free to play. You can play and access entire game without opening your wallet. But you have limits to play in this way.


If you pay, you can get better items, better ships, better features, better rewards. This a business, and because this you have to choice to pay to get better things ingame or accept the fact you have a clear limit to play for free.
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