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# 11
09-19-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zordar01 View Post
QFT.

It would not surprise me in the least if lobi were only available outside of lockboxes solely to provide the exact excuse being used by Cryptic against it being account-wide. The non-lockbox lobi sources don't provide sufficient amounts to warrant keeping them in-game and keeping lobi per character. So just eliminate them and make lobi account-bound. Simple and easy.
simple and easy is not something cryptic stands for... literaly


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# 12
09-19-2012, 08:16 PM
Lets see...

Fix one mission and make lobi account bound.

or...

Leave exploitable mission in place and not grant customers what most would consider a fairly reasonable request.

Bets on how this one turns out? Anyone? No?
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# 13
09-19-2012, 08:49 PM
I'm not a computer programmer but I'm going to assume that changing the reward given by a mission wouldn't be too hard. I also imagine that changing an item from character bound to account bound wouldn't be that hard, either. Considering the fact that I've NEVER seen a single person ask for lobi to be kept as character bound and I've seen countless requests for it to be changed to account bound I feel that PWE has more to gain from changing it over.

(If any computer programmers feel that my assumptions regarding the above changes are incorrect then please accept my apologies in advance and also share the reasons why I'm wrong.)
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# 14
09-19-2012, 09:35 PM
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Actually, I'm thinking more along the lines of the free Lobi crystal you can get with the Hacked Lockbox mission.

Create alt character. Get free Lobi. Delete alt character. Repeat. All Day Long.

The mission isn't time gated and you can do it on every character you have. Unlimited (albeit slow) Lobi generation, if they were account-bound. Not useful for casual players with real jobs, but for farmers it would be a gold mine.

Then you have to factor in that many Lobi store items come in a box that you can put on the exchange, they're only bound if you unpack them. Then you'd have potentially unlimited EC generation as well.


1) Remove Free Lobi from hacked lockbox.
2) Add new 10 "cracked Lobi" to hacked lockbox, character bound.
3) Add 1-3 cheap, character bound, novelty items to Lobi store that cost 10 cracked Lobi.
4) Make all standard Lobi account bound.
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# 15
09-20-2012, 12:13 AM
I too agree it should be account bound and free lobi should just go and not happen. The fact it isn't account bound is one of the reasons I try to avoid the darn things.

Such simple solutions suggested in this thread but I bount they'll ever happen. Cryptic obviously doesn't value it's customers nor have goodwill, everything they do is to bring them mass returns. A little goodwill can go a long way.

An appreciated customer is a happy customer, a happy customer is a paying customer and a paying customer makes Cryptic happy.
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# 16
09-20-2012, 01:15 AM
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Such simple solutions suggested in this thread but I bount they'll ever happen. Cryptic obviously doesn't value it's customers nor have goodwill, everything they do is to bring them mass returns. A little goodwill can go a long way.

An appreciated customer is a happy customer, a happy customer is a paying customer and a paying customer makes Cryptic happy.
You forget one thing.

Cryptic ain't runnin the show anymore. PWE is. And from what I have seen, PWE gives little to no craps about it's customers. I mean, look at the server instability that's been there for 3 weeks. Even the crappiest MMOs I have played fix things as simple as SERVER INSTABILITY within hours of it happening and then being reported by multiple players. Yet it's been 3 weeks. And look, we still see Server not responding. (X.xsec) on what is starting to become a disgustingly regular basis. Tell me I'm wrong. Please.

That in mind, I don't think much of what you guys discussed here will even be considered unfortunately...
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Tired of Wasting EC and Time trying to get Superior Romulan Operative BOffs? Here's a cheap and easy way to get them, with an almost 100% chance of success.
Why the Devs can't make PvE content harder.

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# 17
09-20-2012, 03:18 AM
That damned server not responding message has been driving me nuts!!!

PWE, you need to fix that ASAP!!!!
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# 18
09-20-2012, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
Actually, I'm thinking more along the lines of the free Lobi crystal you can get with the Hacked Lockbox mission.

Create alt character. Get free Lobi. Delete alt character. Repeat. All Day Long.

The mission isn't time gated and you can do it on every character you have. Unlimited (albeit slow) Lobi generation, if they were account-bound. Not useful for casual players with real jobs, but for farmers it would be a gold mine.

Then you have to factor in that many Lobi store items come in a box that you can put on the exchange, they're only bound if you unpack them. Then you'd have potentially unlimited EC generation as well.
Geez not like it is rockets science, put a timer on the mission, make lobi account bound, done. Heck put a minimum level requirement for the mission on top of it.
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# 19
09-20-2012, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
You forget one thing.

Cryptic ain't runnin the show anymore. PWE is. And from what I have seen, PWE gives little to no craps about it's customers. I mean, look at the server instability that's been there for 3 weeks. Even the crappiest MMOs I have played fix things as simple as SERVER INSTABILITY within hours of it happening and then being reported by multiple players. Yet it's been 3 weeks. And look, we still see Server not responding. (X.xsec) on what is starting to become a disgustingly regular basis. Tell me I'm wrong. Please.

That in mind, I don't think much of what you guys discussed here will even be considered unfortunately...
Actually that's been there for months, it comes and goes but seriously I agree they need to get their act together. I think when loading one of the problems is the game tries to throw you into the most populated instance. It should be worked so it tries to keep as few players as possible in an instance so all instances are roughly equal with players.
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Cryptic is sloppy. Breaking News at 11. This is what happens when there is no outline or plan and you just make up **** as you go along.
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We can tell our great grandchildren, "In my day, our cloaks were so sensitive that even dialogue broke them and we couldn't change our clothes!"
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# 20
09-20-2012, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
1) Remove Free Lobi from hacked lockbox.
2) Add new 10 "cracked Lobi" to hacked lockbox, character bound.
3) Add 1-3 cheap, character bound, novelty items to Lobi store that cost 10 cracked Lobi.
4) Make all standard Lobi account bound.
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Geez not like it is rockets science, put a timer on the mission, make lobi account bound, done. Heck put a minimum level requirement for the mission on top of it.
Both very reasonable suggestions, in my book.

Except a timer won't work because people would be doing it with alts. But a minimum level of Lt Cmdr would prevent it from being too exploitable.

I suspect the reason they give away the one free Lobi in the first place is to get people to open the Lobi store to see what's in it.
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