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# 51
09-23-2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
Cryptic is being held hostage by the Fed fan-base? The same fan-base which has gone 2 years without any new Missions while the KDF have gotten 9 new Missions, Sorties, etc, etc, etc?

The simple truth is the Fed players blew through all the Missions the first month of the game over 2.5 years ago too, and have gotten nothing new since then. And on top of that we're expected to financially support the entire game via the C-Store.
Two years without any new missions? Hate to break it to you friend-o, but you in that two years time have received 20 missions to the Klingon 9, PLUS new dailys (which are your sorties). They're called Featured Episode series and I know, I know, you are SO hard done by there because Klingons can play them too. Despite the fact that they are very plainly written to be Fed centric in their events and outcomes and we get the token dialogue fluff change to make it so "uniquely" Klingon we've totally kept in step with you there. Oh wait, no we haven't. And the nine missions you lament, they came in to be in place of the ZERO missions we had at launch to your fifty eight I believe is the figure? So sorry you blew through an entire game in a month and were all sad face you had to wait for new content, sorry though baby I'm just gonna take your bah now and give you your soother cuz you need stop fussing.


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So let me ask you this: there are 21 KDF ships in the C-Store. How many do you own? If you can't say at least 11 it doesn't seem like you're putting much effort into helping your cause. And yes, the cause is financial. If you want to change things you need to do so by having a financial impact not by just preaching fire and brimstone from your pulpit every day.


While you might be 20% of the player-base you're probably not even 3% of the financial base. I seriously doubt KDF players are buying Fed C-Store items each week that they can't use on their KDF just to be financially supportive.
And where precisely is your information coming from for these figures? Oh right, probably from the same place you're talking from. Took me a moment to realize it was you talking, not someone behind you.

To answer your inquiry though I own nearly every ship there is, with the exception of two or three. But you want to know something fun? When we got downsized to a mini faction, the landscape altered another way for us in the KDF. Now ships we used to be able to get simply for advancing in rank suddenly found themselves with a C Points cost as well. So ships like the Kar-Fi, like the B'rel retrofit, all those fun ships? They suddenly in addition to the time it took to grind required cash to obtain as well. So nearly everyone of our ships at top tier has a C Point/ZEN requirement to it. Ergo, we probably do account for more of the figures than you since the only reason we pay for ships is to PVP, which is a realm we have a good amount of representation in being that prior to those dastardly nine missions being added that you had to cool it in Spacedock and not have some new crisis to be Kirk savior too for some time we could only level via PVP or Exploration grind. Big fun right?


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At this stage of the game the only financial contribution you're making is probably via Lockbox Keys or buying Zen to sell for Dilithium for Fleetbases. You're certainly not buying C-Store items. Cryptic probably wouldn't even notice you're gone - assuming your impassioned speech could inspire more then a few dozen to leave.

It grows tiring constantly watching the KDF play the minority card: we don't have as much so we deserve more. The simple truth is we all deserve more, whether we're the 20% or the 80%. Just once I'd like Cryptic to say: "Hey Fed players! Here's a new Mission just for you for buying all the C-Store crap over the last 2.5 years!" I'd probably die from a heart attack if they did that.
You must have been away a couple of months ago. They turned around and said exactly that and gave you FIVE new missions! It was called the 2800.

By the way, you really need to mediate that talking from the back thing you do. It's starting to get embarrassing. Like for real, I'm embarrassed for you right now. The idea that you have gotten nothing in the last 2 years to the level the KDF has would be laughable, if it wasn't so sad. And they say WE move the goal posts and are ungrateful? I can only hope somewhere someone reads this shining example of Fed gratitude and shakes their head.

And you know what, I hate to break it to you but you're once again with regards to the C-Store wrong. It must be stunning to live in a world where this drivel is actually thought of as correct. You doubt us to be buying C-Store items? Remember how I just told you that even ships we used to get for FREE now had C cost to them? Want to hear something hilarious? Even though we have actually ALREADY spent money on ships for the KDF in the C-Store? We have to spend it AGAIN to buy Fleet versions whereas you guys get that nice fifteen dollar discount. So you wind up spending five bucks on your ship and when it?s said and done my fleet Tor'kaht ran me fifty to possibly seventy five dollars depending on if I bought the Vor'cha AND the Vor'kang.

The Fleet Scourge? Fifty dollar ship, 25 for the previous version for lower levels that if we're being real was bought for the console, and another 25 for the fleet modules to get it. And to be clear, no we don't HAVE to buy the lower tier ship, but the fact is if we already have prior to the Fleet ships? We get no break in the price on it like the Feds do. Which is fundamentally wrong, but also the way it presently is.

What might cause me to have a heart attack is to see a Fed fan whose actually educated on the issue and does a modicum of research before busting in threads like that to run his mouth for the sake of running his mouth. Chomp on your soother friend, new content will be to you in a months time. Waste time on that Tholian thing if you get bored between now and then. Me I'll just be here, spending double money on ships to create and hone PVP builds.

Last edited by generalkras; 09-23-2012 at 05:23 PM.
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# 52
09-23-2012, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by emperormak View Post
1 new ship for every 2 new ships FED gets. A clearly defined list of c-store ship consoles that FED will NEVER NEVER NEVER get.
Dont bet on that there was a rumor that feds might get plasma leech via lockboxes soon.

If this happends its officially gameover for KDF.

I made 100 posts about this issue and some KDF fans doesnt realise how important it is.

Its like a nuclear reactor meltdown if this helps you imagine the scale of impact that will have if PWE shares our best unique console and the reason why many ppl rolled and loved KDF.

They get 3x new ships in fact for each ship we got also their ships got better stats in paper they got tons of unique CONSTANT tractor pets that even feds realize how much OP and annoying are and they got MACO shields stacking energy effect and if they get plasma leech along with all those things they got then ofc they will be OP and also there will be no reason for some1 to play KDF.

What play KDF only for the orion interceptors ?
Or for the faulty turn rate design in raptors?

HAHAHAHA


ENOUGH WITH SHARING OUR CONSOLES WE ONLY GOT LEFT PLASMA LEECH ACETON ASSIM AND BIO NEUTRAL WARHEAD LEFT UNIQUE AND MAYBE WORTHY.

ENOUGH WITH RIPPING APART KDF AND FAVOURING FEDERATION NOOBS F2P'S......

let ppl play kdf form lvl 1 and enjoy a new faction that will truly shine.

ps. i always forget those OP tetryons feds got that each weapon got 10% proc change to dmg shields.......
yeah they got much more unique stuff and lot of more attention.

So i warn you for the last time NEVER AS LONG AS SERVER RUNS SHARE THE PLASMA LEECH CONSOLE KDF GOT VIA VANDAL DESTROYER WITH ANY FACTION EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by z0gra; 09-23-2012 at 03:54 PM.
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# 53
09-23-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by z0gra View Post
Dont bet on that there was a rumor that feds might get plasma leech via lockboxes soon.

If this happends its officially gameover for KDF.

I made 100 posts about this issue and some KDF fans doesnt realise how important it is.

Its like a nuclear reactor meltdown if this helps you imagine the scale of impact that will have if PWE shares our best unique console and the reason why many ppl rolled and loved KDF.

They get 3x new ships in fact for each ship we got also their ships got better stats in paper they got tons of unique CONSTANT tractor pets that even feds realize how much OP and annoying are and they got MACO shields stacking energy effect and if they get plasma leech along with all those things they got then ofc they will be OP and also there will be no reason for some1 to play KDF.

What play KDF only for the orion interceptors ?
Or for the faulty turn rate design in raptors?

HAHAHAHA


ENOUGH WITH SHARING OUR CONSOLES WE ONLY GOT LEFT PLASMA LEECH ACETON ASSIM AND BIO NEUTRAL WARHEAD LEFT UNIQUE AND MAYBE WORTHY.

ENOUGH WITH RIPPING APART KDF AND FAVOURING FEDERATION NOOBS F2P'S......

let ppl play kdf form lvl 1 and enjoy a new faction that will truly shine.
Dude you really do nothing to help your case when you write like this. Caps, insults, exaggeration and outright falsehoods all stop anyone with any authority from taking your posts seriously.
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# 54
09-23-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by seekerkorhil View Post
Dude you really do nothing to help your case when you write like this. Caps, insults, exaggeration and outright falsehoods all stop anyone with any authority from taking your posts seriously.
Mate, they don't take them seriously regardless. Look at the empty promises, the questions that are danced around rather the being answered. They don't even recognise us as a valued customer, other wise they would fix the cloak bug (rather than that lame excuse), give us some more costume options. Release some more missions for us rather than giving us lame cross faction invasion zones that holds one interest as long as a child who gets a new toy until he sees a new a better one.

Understand we are feed up, had it with Cryptic being Cryptic about if they plan to do anything for the KDF, sick of the false and misleading promises of Mr "Bureaucrat" Stahl. He is so dishonest it isn't funny. He obviously is still putting his own personal wishes into the game rather than developing it for his paying customers. Now he is now talking about Romulan and Borg factions, what the hell. One of the existing factions isn't even half complete after two years and he wants to add more half baked factions. I'm simply lost of words and disgusted by his attitude. The man should be fired and someone neutral that can get the job done brought in.
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Cryptic is sloppy. Breaking News at 11. This is what happens when there is no outline or plan and you just make up **** as you go along.
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We can tell our great grandchildren, "In my day, our cloaks were so sensitive that even dialogue broke them and we couldn't change our clothes!"
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# 55
09-23-2012, 07:14 PM
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Dude you really do nothing to help your case when you write like this. Caps, insults, exaggeration and outright falsehoods all stop anyone with any authority from taking your posts seriously.
I must admit I find the Capital letters easy to read on my phone.
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# 56
09-24-2012, 07:15 AM
They called me a nay sayer and they made nada so I guess they are nada makers

I used to laugh so hard at people saying oh yer so negative and what you are saying is untrue...

Well we are a year from then and all we have gotten in the past year pretty much is the bortasqu' who is negative now? LOL
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# 57
09-24-2012, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zeuxidemus001 View Post
They called me a nay sayer and they made nada so I guess they are nada makers

I used to laugh so hard at people saying oh yer so negative and what you are saying is untrue...

Well we are a year from then and all we have gotten in the past year pretty much is the bortasqu' who is negative now? LOL
This ^

Also i have been writing in a formal nice way but no1 was taking me into consideration anyway.

As a result they caused my temper to raise and as a result its causing caps lock button to engage.

The more they keep ignore us the less money they take from us and the more negative attitude we pass to other players.

Its the simple laws of logic all humans beings got inside build in.

Nothing wrong with me move along just the company keep ignoring rightfully KDF demands.

YES WE DEMAND MORE SHIPS EQUAL TO FED SHIP IN STATS
YES WE DEMAND OUR A FEW UNIQUE CONSOLE TO REMAIN UNIQUE!!!!
YES WE DEMAND BALANCE TO FACTION IF FEDS GET PLASMA LEECH+MACO SHIELDS ITS GAME OVER FOR THE GAME BALANCE.

DO NOT IGNORE US OR ELSE WE WILL HAVE IMPACT TO YOUR POCKETS GREATER THAN YOU IMAGINE

Me only i paid 250 euro in about 6 months i got every right to use caps when i feel its right and when i feel company that got my money is ignoring me.

250 euro in 6 months thats a lifetime paycheck for some federation noobs and i did this in 6 months and now the company is thanking me by giving all the new ships in fed side and on top of that they want to take our PLASMA LEECH and give this also to the feds...

This is outrageous if u do that i will do everything in my powers to stop ppl from playing or starting to play this ripoff unworthy of trust game!

Last edited by z0gra; 09-24-2012 at 07:33 AM.
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# 58
09-24-2012, 09:00 AM
majesticmsfc summed it up right perfectly for me.

One of the major problems to STO is Mr Stahl.
Cryptic's shamefull history with the KDF

http://www.stowiki.org/User:Peregrin...ryptic_Studios
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