Ask an engineer to train one of your bridge officers in it :-)

As I mentioned in the first post it's not for everyone, but I'm curious, what build would YOU use? Perhaps you'd post it so the community might learn from your talents (other than for trolling)?

Well he was in the next room was he not?

Hrm, let me see if i can fix that for you.

first off people, go read Mav's Ultimate Cruiser thread.

for people who want to keep reading one of my rants.....


Horizon's DPS Cruiser build.

okay then, here we go. the only real way to do a dps cruiser in this game that involves cannons, is to run a tac cap kling side. and run the Vor'cha. more specifically, if you can grab it, the Tor'Kaht refit is so frickin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CayMeza487M

but you gotta use the old school skin if you run the refit. if you cool like me that is.

4x Disruptor DHC, best you can get
4x Disruptor turrets.... acc really helps

Tractor1, TSS2
TT1 CRF1
TT1, CRF1, APO1
EPTS1, RSP1, AUX2SIF2, EWP3
EPTS1

3 pc borg and KHG shield
2x Neutronium, 2xRCS
1x field gen, and borg console (maybe that new OP lobi console too)
4x Disruptor coils

3x BFI hax doffs, 2x evasives doffs
power settings (attk) 100 25 50 25 (def) 25 100 50 25 (agi) 25 50 100 25
spec for high power setting, energy weapons, and part gens.

piloting: evasive snare with tractor then alpha buff warp pee all over em. whats cool is when you get used to the ship, you can decloak and power slide warp pee.....all while bringing your cannons around for the pounding. but dont go all flying in all willy nilly, i use evasives to get in quick, then reduce speed to 1/4 impulse faster than the target for the pee cloud, you want a big cloud all around the target. you do not want long trails of thin cloud. (unless you are clearing pets)

anywho, some say you would want DEM over EWP. which would be cool, but i don't trust DEM.... some would say drop the tractor for hazzards, which would be solid too. just more defensive..... in a ship with 55k hull, 13k shields and rsp and bfi doff hax......you are already extremely stacked. this build is extremely fun to fly. you are like this huge escort.

have fun kill bad guys

When did that happen? I crf/dem all the time and the damage still seems to go up.

thats pretty close to what i run, only i use damage control boffs and have ET1, EPtW1, EPtS3, and A2S3. i also use repulsers over a normal tractor beam.

EPtS3 lets you survive just about anything, and the extra weapons power from EPtW1 makes a big difference in damage. pushing someone directly in front of you away wile alpha striking with repulsers messes up their defence score, keeps yours high, keeps them from being able to turn, and deals about 1000 kinetic damage with just repulsers and tac buffed.

i think using plasma on that thing spreads you too thin, and i think plasma 3 is a waist unless you use 2 or 3 partial consoles and have it skilled to 99, that buffs iso charge too. thats why i have a fleet ktinga and a fleet vorcha, each with its own character. i can do all the plasmaing and tractoring and AP criting i want in the ktinga without sacrificing survivability, and fly the fleet vorcha exactly like an escort, thats 50% harder to kill.


next time you use it, find someone alone who is pretty good at tanking blow all your tac buffs but don't use CRF and watch DEM do considerable hull damage. then later do that again and watch how until CRF blows down a shield there is none of that extra hull damage. this is why everyone thinks it sucks, they use it during an alpha and expect results but don't really get any, or think they do but its really underwhelming, and decide that it sucks. and it does suck, its so over time and so slight that it is incredibly easy to out heal even at it's best. it only ends up being helpful if you got someone alone who focuses a lot more on shield tanking then hull tanking.

Only problem is that I use DEM and CRF with my engie' cruiser character, I don't have any tactical buffs to "blow".

copy drunk, you are a way more versed cruiser pilot than i am tho. i like the vorcha refit because of just that, to me...its a big escort.

and i love warp plasma, yeah, you do lose a little defense, but like i said before.....its so easy to tank in this game with just 2 copies of epts, and then rsp and bfi doffs. that alone is enough defense for any ship i fly pretty much. (except my engie healer, who has no offense at all)

and with an evasives every 25 seconds! so much fun. and not very cruiser like at all. but out of as many "lol dps" cruisers i see out there....the only build that seems to pull it off the way i want to.....would be just like this.

other than that you just beam boat away....which i do not favor while trying to do damage.

have fun kill bad guys!

People like to be creative, but it's hard to be creative in a cruiser. Also, if they don't play premade vs. premade they don't have an effective measuring stick to compare the effectiveness of their builds with. That's the way I see it at least.