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# 11
09-23-2012, 01:11 PM
"The bop is a piece of Crap of a ship. Period. Anything it does I can name 4 ships that do it better".

Ok...then...I wanna see Thissler blowing the evil Klinguns in these 4 ships...
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# 12
09-23-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by starwrathforever View Post
"The bop is a piece of Crap of a ship. Period. Anything it does I can name 4 ships that do it better".

Ok...then...I wanna see Thissler blowing the evil Klinguns in these 4 ships...
Thissler doesn't like flying with the blue UI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHn-K68ld4 anyway here's a vid of a Fed ship doing some face rapins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CPuXgrLwoQ another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46jUOcBA7hE and another
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# 13
09-23-2012, 01:42 PM
In the third video there are many beautiful female Officers half-naked. How can a poor Captain to concentrate?
Well...I say...tsk tsk tsk...nah...I wanna see a single Fed escort vaporizing your huge and ugly Battle Cruisers and Warships!
I'm awaiting all the night (for me, of course), in sweet company...(my comfort Officer)...
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# 14
09-23-2012, 01:53 PM
AFAIK, anything fired before the BoP cloaks will hit the ship as if its shields were still up, even if the shield indicator drops before the torp/cannon/etc graphic reaches the target. If you wait for the cloak icon to pop up before you fire a volley then you'll hit the ship's bare hull.
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# 15
09-23-2012, 02:30 PM
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In the third video there are many beautiful female Officers half-naked. How can a poor Captain to concentrate?
Well...I say...tsk tsk tsk...nah...I wanna see a single Fed escort vaporizing your huge and ugly Battle Cruisers and Warships!
I'm awaiting all the night (for me, of course), in sweet company...(my comfort Officer)...
I will have vids of me shooting up someone's vorcha soon enough I suspect
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# 16
09-23-2012, 02:38 PM
Good luck!
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# 17
09-23-2012, 07:39 PM
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First thing, they could simply be placating with KHG procs, and then using that opportunity to Battlecloak while the jam effect is up. There is nothing wrong with doing this of course, (other than the KHG proc is stupid to begin with) and really it's pretty much the only -safe- way to battlecloak mid combat against light coverage. (ie one person shooting you or maybe 2)

Second no one cares about ST Canon references. Weapons in particular in trick vary from OMG SUPER WEAPON to... Feather duster. The only thing that matters is balance.

the shield DOES get pantsed instantly when you go to cloak, or when you come out you are also vulnerable for 2 seconds before the shields raise.

Your torps probably missed in example1. That or you're relying on Torp SPread to do the job of High Yield. It's quite possible he simply survived the shot.

2: If your Cannon Volleys are so weak that the kdf feels confident enough to cloak right infront of you, then you need to re examine your build. Secondly if this is the case I also suspect the only reason he's cloaking is because his ambush failed to vaporize you in the first opening seconds. Or he already used his best buffs on someone else.

3: Phasers have a proc that can do that. It's really funny watching someone try to cloak when it procs their aux off.. because they can't.

4: there is this thing called Defense Score. It's how a ship lives and dies in combat. You can Miss in sto.

5: The bop is a piece of Crap of a ship. Period. Anything it does I can name 4 ships that do it better. Actually that general rule applies to the KDF in general with cloaking ships, save the Fleet Vorcha which is the best dps escort (to the point that it even gains the fragility of an Escort) the kdf has and it's a Cruiser.
The Bird or Prey was in the middle of the battle with me and my team he battle cloaked to get escape our onslaught, so we went on to destroy his teammate and seconds later that Bird of prey decloaks trying to blindside me bacause I'm slow at turning. With 3 or 4 of us shooting at him, all our weapons can't be missing him. He had the same level of health as he did when he cloaked.

If you don't care about Star Trek canon then, I don't care what you have to say, simple as that.

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# 18
09-23-2012, 07:58 PM
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May I correct the statement?

Devs went way out of there why to make things VERY easy for KDF.

If you do not properly time or buff resist and cloak in combat you will go boom more often than not whole under attack.

The KDF gots it easy is so easy is bogus. We do not have any easyness given by the Devs. We just have the skills of cloak and our warships to use best we can. If the KDF had dev buffed stuff you would see KDF teams more dominate high end PvP.
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# 19
09-23-2012, 08:21 PM
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If you do not properly time or buff resist and cloak in combat you will go boom more often than not whole under attack.

The KDF gots it easy is so easy is bogus. We do not have any easyness given by the Devs. We just have the skills of cloak and our warships to use best we can. If the KDF had dev buffed stuff you would see KDF teams more dominate high end PvP.
Indeed, I don't hit my battlecloak while in active battle unless I know I'm not gonna get shot at by someone. Most of the time I'll hit Evasive and/or Omega and battlecloak the instant I get 10km from all enemies, while also hitting Brace for Impact to deal with any errant torpedoes.

Usually works, too, because people either don't know how to chase me down, or don't know when to hit their own speed buffs to chase me.
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# 20
09-23-2012, 09:47 PM
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The Bird or Prey was in the middle of the battle with me and my team he battle cloaked to get escape our onslaught, so we went on to destroy his teammate and seconds later that Bird of prey decloaks trying to blindside me bacause I'm slow at turning. With 3 or 4 of us shooting at him, all our weapons can't be missing him. He had the same level of health as he did when he cloaked.

If you don't care about Star Trek canon then, I don't care what you have to say, simple as that.
If this game was more about Star Trek Canon, and less about Balances and Checks, no one would play a Klingon because the Federation ships would just blow them up in one to three shots. Or If the Story called for it, you'd get blown up just as quickly with no need for ship powers.

Not to mention there would be very little, not nearly no healing the way the game is currently.

And Tricobalt Torpedoes would ALWAYS one shot big stationary targets.

Transphasics would always bypass shields and go straight to hull.

Chronoton Torpedoes would do the same.

You, as a Federation Officer would not be alowed to use anything but Phasers and Photon or Quantum Torpedoes. And there would be no Magic Proc on those weapons to cause a random subsystem to fail.

I could go ON..and ON..and ON as to why it would be a bad Idea.

Maybe instead of whineing and moaning about the fact that you got blown up by a PVP player in a game, you could try to.. I don't know.. Play on the Klingon side? Perhaps see what made that Bird of Prey do what it did. Or even try to do it your self.

I can almost guarentee that you would not be able to acomplish it with out at least 2 months of practice. Because it's damn harder then your posts are making it out to be to kill some one with a Bird of Prey when under constant Fire.
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