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# 21
09-24-2012, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by alexindcobra View Post
The Bird or Prey was in the middle of the battle with me and my team he battle cloaked to get escape our onslaught, so we went on to destroy his teammate and seconds later that Bird of prey decloaks trying to blindside me bacause I'm slow at turning. With 3 or 4 of us shooting at him, all our weapons can't be missing him. He had the same level of health as he did when he cloaked.

If you don't care about Star Trek canon then, I don't care what you have to say, simple as that.
Canon has nothing to do with STO.

Secondly, its easy to buff one's BoP to survive cloaking in battle under fire if one knows what abilities to use before hitting cloak and has them in one's build. It doesn;t always work mind you as thier are ways to strip the buffs but when it does, it does well.

While only the B'rel-R can heal while cloaked the ability to heal oneself and prep shields as one comes out of cloak is easy, if one practices, so that you can decloak, buff and have full shields/Hull almost immediatly.

The possibility that your BoP opponent cheated or exploited the system is low and it sounds as if they where just a highly experienced BoP player.
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# 22
09-24-2012, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
If you do not properly time or buff resist and cloak in combat you will go boom more often than not whole under attack.

The KDF gots it easy is so easy is bogus. We do not have any easyness given by the Devs. We just have the skills of cloak and our warships to use best we can. If the KDF had dev buffed stuff you would see KDF teams more dominate high end PvP.
May I correct again the statement?

Devs went way out of there why to make things VERY easy for VERY SKILLED KDF players.

"The possibility that your BoP opponent cheated or exploited the system is low and it sounds as if they where just a highly experienced BoP player."

Absolutely agree! My favorite evil Klingun and ancient enemy Roach is right! The timing and the choice of the abilities must be perfect if the Bop wants to survive...and the best Bop pilots can do all this very well!
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# 23
09-24-2012, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by starwrathforever View Post
"The bop is a piece of Crap of a ship. Period. Anything it does I can name 4 ships that do it better".

Ok...then...I wanna see Thissler blowing the evil Klinguns in these 4 ships...


I'm hoping that was a typo. But the following video does show me partying with Klingons.
And whipping at least ONE of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hziQ9xTw7g&feature=plcp

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# 24
09-24-2012, 06:44 AM
What's this? Soft porn?
I knew Adm. Quinn has an Orion female harem...but...it is forbidden flirting with the Starfleet Officer females...
Anyway this is not what I wanna see...evil Klingun (and beautiful too!)
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# 25
09-24-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by alexindcobra View Post
The Bird or Prey was in the middle of the battle with me and my team he battle cloaked to get escape our onslaught, so we went on to destroy his teammate and seconds later that Bird of prey decloaks trying to blindside me bacause I'm slow at turning. With 3 or 4 of us shooting at him, all our weapons can't be missing him. He had the same level of health as he did when he cloaked.

If you don't care about Star Trek canon then, I don't care what you have to say, simple as that.
See above. You all should rethink your builds. I suggest your cruiser whoever it is starts reading my Cruiser Thread ASAP.

You said cannons... and now slow turning. Dear God you aren't some Failaxy X pilot are you? I'm guessing by your Avatar the answer is going to be Yes. Dude, first thing to improving your game, drop the Cannons. The ship is far too slow for them to be even remotely effective in pvp. Slow Traveling Poor Inertia ship = never put Cannons on it, ever. Not even Single barrels.

The second bit of advice, is get out of the Failaxy immediately. It's a Worthless Ship.

Lemme guess he flew over head, or aimed his ship upward while he did it too. That's because your piece of scrap Pig Iron of a ship (more like Lead) isn't even going to have a prayer of staying on a target long enough to do real damage. And if you say "it works in pve go away!"

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# 26
09-24-2012, 07:09 AM
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AFAIK, anything fired before the BoP cloaks will hit the ship as if its shields were still up, even if the shield indicator drops before the torp/cannon/etc graphic reaches the target. If you wait for the cloak icon to pop up before you fire a volley then you'll hit the ship's bare hull.
^^^ Truth spoken above.
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# 27
09-24-2012, 07:10 AM
Threads like those make me want to roll a KDF toon and check how it is to be on the wrong side of Extend
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# 28
09-24-2012, 07:11 AM
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Indeed, I don't hit my battlecloak while in active battle unless I know I'm not gonna get shot at by someone. Most of the time I'll hit Evasive and/or Omega and battlecloak the instant I get 10km from all enemies, while also hitting Brace for Impact to deal with any errant torpedoes.

Usually works, too, because people either don't know how to chase me down, or don't know when to hit their own speed buffs to chase me.
I'm that jerkface that doesn't chase but Beam Target Engines II and Tractorbeam II you.

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Threads like those make me want to roll a KDF toon and check how it is to be on the wrong side of Extend
Don't do it.... LOL

On my KDF Character, I have a Cruiser, used Extend on a BOP... then realized oh... no one is going to have an Extend for me... I learned real fast that KDF Cruisers are just another Escort and that my best defense was to kill that Fed ship very fast or get out of there.
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# 29
09-24-2012, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by alexindcobra View Post
The Bird or Prey was in the middle of the battle with me and my team he battle cloaked to get escape our onslaught, so we went on to destroy his teammate and seconds later that Bird of prey decloaks trying to blindside me bacause I'm slow at turning. With 3 or 4 of us shooting at him, all our weapons can't be missing him. He had the same level of health as he did when he cloaked.

If you don't care about Star Trek canon then, I don't care what you have to say, simple as that.
There is a fairly easy way to tell if it's the KHG shield's proc, because along with making the target disappear from YOUR sight for a second or two it also gives you an accuracy debuff so if you see that debuff then you know it's the shield proc.

As for battle cloak, your shields do drop and may I remind you that in the movies you listed the BoPs that were getting hit were actually hit by torpedoes, and if you're hit by torpedoes without shields in this game you will not walk away unscathed and there are plenty of BoP Captains who have just barely escaped while they were getting hit by torpedoes while cloaking/running. The damage to the hull is not nearly as high from beams and cannons so if that's what you're hitting the BoPs with then don't expect them to drop dead.

Overall though, your argument is pointless because no matter how pissed off you are, the shields still drop the moment you hit cloak and if you're hit by torpedoes in those few seconds then you will be hit hard but nowhere does it say in any show or movie that you should get instantly killed because you cloaked.

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# 30
09-24-2012, 09:12 AM
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Devs went way out of there why to make things VERY easy for VERY SKILLED KDF players.
How so?
What evidence that the High End KDF players have had Dev help in being competant and skilled players in PvP?
Where is this Iwin button that every KDF players knows about but me?

There is no "very easy" for the KDF, there is only skill, experience and knowing how the game works. That is the only "it" that exists in PvP.

Those that learn "it" all prosper and seem like gods in PvP.
Those that half-ass learn "it" (me for example) sometimes can do good in PvP.
Those that just blaim "it" for losing to those that learned "it" all, merely sound like the losers they are.

and no, I do not place you, StarWrath, in that last group.
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