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Join Date: Aug 2012
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PvP is dead. No matter how are you guys want to hope, pray, wish, think, etc. it is and it will NEVER change. The best thing they really need to do is just get rid of PvP all together and make this game a PvM based.

Besides right now the C-Store is mainly designed for the PvEr. That's where your money is going to, where the main player base is and is how they barely keeping the game afloat. After all, we were not even a 0.1% of the game population to make any incentive for them to fix it. Simple reason is because there is no money in it.

I love PvP more than anything and I hate PvE but I've come to terms that it will never be fixed. Once you realize that the better off you all are.

It's been since beta which is 3 years now. Let's be honest here. 3 years? Why keep complaining when they do not hear you. Let it go and find PvP in another game. I already have.

Hopefully by 2015 this game will be ready when it is what I predicted back in the 2009 because I warned the developers about this. Naturally they didn't listen and look what the game has taken for form. History repeats itself.

Last edited by captainluke85; 09-23-2012 at 09:39 PM.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 151
# 2
09-23-2012, 09:58 PM
They could "fix" it, the 64 dollar ? is, will they?

Possibly if they can figure a way to monitize PVP gameplay. The new Starbases got monitized via large dil sinks and 20 bucks for all the new little pixel toys, each. I believe I like this idea about as well as you do, but it's the way of the STO world as F2P. At the end of it all, they are a business and there simply has to be a return for investment. In the mean time, we get 1 developer, who asked for the job, and then he beats feet.

Maybe......, if they can figure a way to monitize PVP.

I'm also looking at other games now for my PVP fix but haven't found it as yet. The open world PVP with the new Rift expansion seems at the least, interesting.
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# 3
09-23-2012, 10:06 PM
dead huh? i played a ton of good matches today. some were boring pub stomps, others were with skilled groups of guys. pvp is not dead, L2P. if more then about 5% of sto's player base would just L2P, pvp would be a huge part of the game, even as imperfect as it is.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 4
09-23-2012, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
dead huh? i played a ton of good matches today. some were boring pub stomps, others were with skilled groups of guys. .
There's the problem right there. The PVP matches are so uneven due to the lack of a ranking system and the advantages of pre-made teams that new people in PUGs are curb stomped till they don't enjoy it anymore. They never "learn to play" because it's not fun for them to play. I've pvp'd for a while now but the proliferation of the SUB NUK doff and the unbalanced nature of some ships(patrol escort=tough kill that will whoop your ass, non c-store sci ship=points on the score board) has really hurt my interest.

For the record, I've never flown a sci ship into PVP, I've seen too many get absolutely flattened and have farmed them in PVP matches so many times I now feel bad about it. Same for most RA cruisers.
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# 5
09-24-2012, 12:42 AM
PvP is not that bad as people say. It lacks content, and rewards to make others interested in it. I personally like PvP and I play when I see people in queue.
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For the record, I've never flown a sci ship into PVP, I've seen too many get absolutely flattened and have farmed them in PVP matches so many times I now feel bad about it. Same for most RA cruisers.
Don't underestimate sci. ships. Any ship is useless in hands of someone who can not use it. I can show good example, 2 sci ships on enemy team: Nebula, Recluse carrier, and Tactical escort. When you attack one of sci ships its getting healed by another, if you attack escort, they both heal him. It was long match, and we lost because we did not have such teamwork.
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# 6
09-24-2012, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by taut0u View Post
PvP is not that bad as people say. It lacks content, and rewards to make others interested in it. I personally like PvP and I play when I see people in queue.

Don't underestimate sci. ships. Any ship is useless in hands of someone who can not use it. I can show good example, 2 sci ships on enemy team: Nebula, Recluse carrier, and Tactical escort. When you attack one of sci ships its getting healed by another, if you attack escort, they both heal him. It was long match, and we lost because we did not have such teamwork.
yeah it is not specifically the sci ship that is bad, it is 90% the captain and his setup. There are some really good sci ship captains, just very few. And you must consider, that most of the really good players will most likely have an escort or a heal cruiser.
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# 7
09-24-2012, 01:26 AM
I'd say PVP is alive and well as long as we get another repetitive "Oh nao we're d00med!!111" PVP thread every few days.
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# 8
09-24-2012, 01:36 AM
My impression from all this reading is that PvP is about who can put together and use the most broken combination of magic spells and powers to be invulnerable or instantly kill their opponent, rather than any kind of deep Starfleet Command-like tactical action. To be honest, when I first signed on, I expected more out of it.

On top of that, it has no...purpose. PvP, except maybe Kerrat, advances no agenda or goal besides senseless violence. Except apparently they killed Kerrat and the place is mostly dead now, so I missed the heyday of that, too. Go figure. Entropy always increases, and this is why we can't have nice things.
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# 9
09-24-2012, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by razellis View Post
There's the problem right there. The PVP matches are so uneven due to the lack of a ranking system and the advantages of pre-made teams that new people in PUGs are curb stomped till they don't enjoy it anymore. They never "learn to play" because it's not fun for them to play. I've pvp'd for a while now but the proliferation of the SUB NUK doff and the unbalanced nature of some ships(patrol escort=tough kill that will whoop your ass, non c-store sci ship=points on the score board) has really hurt my interest.

For the record, I've never flown a sci ship into PVP, I've seen too many get absolutely flattened and have farmed them in PVP matches so many times I now feel bad about it. Same for most RA cruisers.
Well, if they get a reputation system going for the lvl 50 players, and have a separate one for PvP (based off number of players you've defeated, perhaps?), and tie 'em into the queues. . .things might even out a bit.

I'm staying. STO costs me nothing to play right now, as I'm using ex-gold fringe benefits on two of my toons, with a 3rd new one on plain silver access, and I don't see the need to create new toons anytime soon. I'll just plague the wretched wasteland of Ker'rat and the PvP queues, seeking what entertainment I can find there.
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# 10
09-24-2012, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jkname View Post
My impression from all this reading is that PvP is about who can put together and use the most broken combination of magic spells and powers to be invulnerable or instantly kill their opponent, rather than any kind of deep Starfleet Command-like tactical action. To be honest, when I first signed on, I expected more out of it.

On top of that, it has no...purpose. PvP, except maybe Kerrat, advances no agenda or goal besides senseless violence. Except apparently they killed Kerrat and the place is mostly dead now, so I missed the heyday of that, too. Go figure. Entropy always increases, and this is why we can't have nice things.
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