Yes because the Aquarius and the Fleet Escort have Battlecloak ... oh, wait ...

And since you want to play this game ...

Flt. Escort Retrofit - Hull 30,360 ; Shield Modifier 0.77
Flt Qin - Hull 36,300 ; Shield Modifier 0.92
Flt Hoh'SuS - Hull 24,750 ; Shield Modifier 0.88

Stop being a BAWWWW bunny, the KDF have its own broken ships (like the Flt. Ning'tao) but none are as bad as the LOLarius that have.

Hull 26,400
Shield Modifier 0.72

And that is the FLEET version mind you, if you are going to bring up the Ning'tao have worst hull ... yes, but it also have all Universals, turn rate 22 and Battlecloak.

I'm curious? Why do people always feel the need to jibe, insult and make fun of people on public forums? I never really get it. Did you lack attention as a child? It's like making a fool of yourself in-front of a passing stranger. It's only yourself that comes off looking like at idiot.

Mind posting the FED Fleet escorts as well now and please also include the weapons comparison and consoles slots?

Perhaps you are also aware of the fact that the Qin is not at all popular due to its known pivot-point problem.

PS. Both the Aquarius or the Hoh'SuS should not even be featured as Fleet ships IMHO.

My point is the Feds have the Fleet Defiant and a host of awesome Escorts while the KDF get little in comparison in that department honestly?

Most of the KDF played ships don't even have fleet versions for that matter that count.

They posted enough to realize that is the only way to post if you want a reply?

You are comparing the Escort-class with KDF raptors and raiders and if I post the Fleet Defiant it loses out anyway.

Qin might not be popular but its the better shielded and armored raptor with a tactical layout.

Of course not, the Aquarius is the Federation poor man BoP that fails at even that since it cannot cloak, I cannot understand why they bothered making it a Fleet ship and just not thrown it as a Zen-Shop T3 ship.

The Hoh'SuS however have more armor that the B'rel (same shield modifier) so it can take more abuse in exchange for lacking that "enhanced" Battlecloak, the stinker is the Ning'tao that have less hull that the T4 BoP.

Does not excuse on the fact you are attacking the fact they are fixing two ... well one ship by raising its turn rate.

Argue about the Qin and the Hoh'SuS problems, not "Feds have better ships so dont fix the other Fed ships".

Again, this is not a argument about the Escort-class being "fine" and not needing adjustments.

There is also a Tetty Beam Bank MK XII green that feels like it's a blue MK IX ground armeowr. :p

By the way, while you're at uniforms, could you eventually fix the borderline clipping issues on the standard TNG series uniform (pre-order version) female variant? The Season 1 TNG uniform loox purrfect now, and DS9 movie as well as DS9 series loox good as well. Just TNG series is bad.

So what its the point in getting the Aquarius? is T4 and cost 2 k zen. Its special because its goes in the back of the Ody? or you can change from the Odyssey to the Aquarius like a shuttle?

another new patch (but no notes?)

up to .18 now

You mean how the KDF Fleet battle cruisers are completely superior to any of the Fed Fleet Cruisers?

Some ships made out really well in the fleet system, some ended up sucking.

The Aquarius is one of the ones that ended up sucking, badly.

Yet this terrible ship, getting a +1 turn rate was enough to prompt you to come into this thread with more "KDF unfairness" that we already have 2 to 3 sub-forums wholly dedicated to.


The only people who get this are either "noobs" who get suckered into it, or people who absolutely must have the Aquarius because they have the Ody.




Look at KDF Battle Cruisers, look at Fed Cruisers.


Poorly designed ships exist on both sides.

And just to nitpick, the KDF do not have Escorts. They have Raptors with built-in cloaking (and destroyers which are mostly well designed).

You can debate the merits of cloaking all you like, but they essential get something in return for any hull or shield reductions and the Pivot point issue isn't a systems team issue.