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# 11
09-27-2012, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by scbypwr View Post
Not a fan of cruisers at all...especially for TACs.

You should be in an escort!!!

But..with that in mind? two DBBs up front with quantum torpedo and one other of your desire. You could put both photons up front as well!

Four turrets in the back of the boat.

With this...you should alway be facing your target. I do something similar on a Recluse carrier and can contribute a lot of DPS if needed....

Beams are pretty weak and most would be surprised at how effective turrets are on the back of bigger ships can be.

I also recommend two pieces sets with two piece sets: maco deflector and shield, borg engine and console or omega defelector and shield and borg engine and console.

The third procs for the set bonuses can be dropped in favor of the passive hull regen of the two piece set. The BOFF power should handle your shield heals!

Again..not a a fan of cruisers since most already run those and a good tac escort that can deal DPS AND tank are few and far between.

i do a simular build with my Carrier, except instead of DBB i use Regular Single cannons, they do the same DMG and have 2x the ARC and allows me to use the Cannon Rapid Fire which boosts both cannons and turrets..

but for some people DBB work better everyone has their own personal pref
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# 12
09-27-2012, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by deepspacejunkie View Post
i do a simular build with my Carrier, except instead of DBB i use Regular Single cannons, they do the same DMG and have 2x the ARC and allows me to use the Cannon Rapid Fire which boosts both cannons and turrets..

but for some people DBB work better everyone has their own personal pref
I prefer on the recluse:

DBB, DHC, quantum torped up front
three turrets in the rear

phased tetryon since tac consoles will buff your pets

Kar'fi:

same setup as the escort but with disruptors and orion interceptors or slavers. I prefer slavers for the ability to steal loot.
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# 13
09-27-2012, 09:17 AM
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# 14
09-27-2012, 09:24 AM
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Yes it does, i use a VERY simular on my Tac escort

Maco MK XII Def and Shield
Assimilated Eng

Fore: 4x Advanced Fleet Anti-Proton DHC MK XII DMG3 ACC
Aft: 2x Advanced Fleet Anti-Proton Turrets MK XII DMG3 ACC, Advanced Fleet Quant MK XII DMG3 ACC


Tac: 4x Anti-Proton Mags Mk XII
Eng: 2x Neutronium Mk XII, 1x Assimilated Console
Sci: 2x Field Generators MK XII

Comm. Tac: TT1, CRF 1, APO 1, CRF 3
Lt. Comm. Tac: TT1, ARB1, APO1
Lt. Tac: Spread 1
Lt. Eng.: EMPTS, RSP
Lt. Sci: TSS 1, HE 2

Doffs: 1 Warp core engineer, 2 shield dist. officers, 2 damage control engineers.
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# 15
09-27-2012, 09:44 AM
While not VITAL, you really ought to retrait (EDIT - restat, not retrait).

First off I'd suck Projectile Weapons down to rank 3-4, and projectile weapon specialization down to 0. Energy weapon specialization could stand to go to 6. I don't know about starship maneuvers; I use a 6, myself.

Structural integrity should go up to 6, hull plating down to 6, armor and weapon performance up to 6. I'd also transfer 3 ranks from hull repair to shield emitters.

Warp core potential should go down to 6 as well - you get less than 1 full point out of those last 3 ranks. You can probably see the pattern here; diminishing returns in a big way. Keep in mind that for each stat, rank 3 gets you to +54, rank 6 to +84, and rank 9 to +99.

I'd also consider a boost to combat specialist on the ground, if you can afford it.

For BOff abilities - You've got a ton and a half of points in Attack Patterns - use them, and put APB into your Lt. Tac slot. Consider dumping Science Team 2 and put in Hazard Emitters 2.

Use some more powerful DOffs - the whites just don't have the energy you're looking for. You should try to get 2 purple Conn DOffs that drop tac team cooldown and boost Attack Patterns - with those you can cycle one copy of TT non-stop. You may also want to consider Warp Core Engineer, which has a chance of boosting your power considerably to all systems on the use of emergency power. IMO I'd also ditch the Maintenance Engineers.

The cycle I use on my cruisers is EPtW1 x 2, EPtS2/3 x 2 (preferably 2 copies of 3), TT1 x 2, A2SIF3 x 1. This makes them pretty sturdy and gives them solid firepower. If you are extremely keen on using your ship as a healer, during retrait you should bring Auxiliary Performance up to 6 and may consider using EPtA instead of EPtW - this will deprive your damage output but will up your defensive output to at least some degree.

For consoles, dump the Field Emitter for the Assimilated Console, and get blue antiproton mags mk XI. I'd also put in neutronium armor consoles - some advocate monotanium. Note that armor consoles do have diminishing returns to at least some extent, so each successive armor console will do less and less.

In general the old "base standard," and probably still popular, is to try to get Mk XI Rare for most, if not all, consoles. Since the introduction of Mk XII, though, Mk XII green is just as good and anything else above it is better and PAINFULLY expensive.

For shields, dump the Borg shield for the MACO shield (you still get the 3 piece proc with the assimilated console).

For weapons I would strongly consider Mk XI Very Rare quantum torps - you should probably get these from Roxy because they're murderously expensive elsewhere.

Some of this stuff is going to be painfully expensive. The DOffs may cost you 3 mil EC each (or more), but you can get some free by doing the colonization missions, although these may take up to a few weeks to reach fruition. The antiproton mag regulators and the neutronium armor consoles are also going to be costly. But you don't have to get it all at once.

This is all IMO, people will probably chew on me for advocating a cruiser for a tac. Although I will say that an AC is a good cruiser for a tac, consider the Excelsior-R, the Tactical Odyssey, and particularly the Regent. IMO the Tac Ody is best for when using the three-pack, so unless you have that you may find it a bit of a letdown. The Regent is a side-grade that you may enjoy.

EDIT: RESTAT, NOT RETRAIT. Sorry about that!

Last edited by red01999; 09-27-2012 at 10:18 AM.
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# 16
09-27-2012, 09:54 AM
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This is all IMO, people will probably chew on me for advocating a cruiser for a tac. Although I will say that an AC is a good cruiser for a tac, consider the Excelsior-R, the Tactical Odyssey, and particularly the Regent. IMO the Tac Ody is best for when using the three-pack, so unless you have that you may find it a bit of a letdown. The Regent is a side-grade that you may enjoy.

Nothing wrong with a Tac on a Cruiser, i generally use my Tac in sci vessels or cruisers, my favorite combo is my Tac officer with my D'Kora it is a match made in heaven imo lol... i have a so much fun with it.
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# 17
09-27-2012, 12:40 PM
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First any newb useing the 3 piece borg set shouldnt even be posting advice online. Second if anything at all for tank go with 2 borg 2 maco setup. third real elite players use the complete maco for tanking complet omega for dps. 3 if ur still useing mx1 weapons...dont post your newblyness online and confuse the next rank of players. 4 wow fix your bridge crew no wonder why so many pugs fail stf ...people like you.
Thanks for all replies except the above quoted one. If you read the title you would realise I was asking for advice. I will now however give you a little bit of advice, rather than coming on here and posting utter rubbish both in content and English please read, think and understand before posting. Your post was not only nasty and poorly written it was irrelevant. And by the way, this forum is kind enough to have the ability to spell check for people like you.

Thanks to others again, I will take on board some of the advice. And thanks spacejunkie for your offer. I will try to find you when online.
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# 18
09-27-2012, 03:47 PM
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First any newb useing the 3 piece borg set shouldnt even be posting advice online. Second if anything at all for tank go with 2 borg 2 maco setup. third real elite players use the complete maco for tanking complet omega for dps. 3 if ur still useing mx1 weapons...dont post your newblyness online and confuse the next rank of players. 4 wow fix your bridge crew no wonder why so many pugs fail stf ...people like you.
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