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# 21
09-27-2012, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by havam View Post
Did i just loose it, or did you mellow?
Maybe you've just become more snarky and jaded?

But really, I think a lot of us just don't care about this game the way we used to. Less emotions to go around. I'm still pretty fiery on the MWO forums though.
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# 22
09-27-2012, 06:39 AM


My favorite combination is an Engineer in a tactical escort retrofit, built for burst damage and durability. It may not be optimal for PvP, but I definitely pull my own weight in STFs and fleet defense missions.
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# 23
09-27-2012, 08:22 AM
Prometh3eous,

No sweat, EPtW3 isn't a very widely used skill because in reality, there are very few ships with a LCDR Engineering BO that are considered escort class. With that said, +25% damage for 5 seconds can be very useful when stacked, particularly for a decloak alpha BO3 from a science officer who also hits with damage buffs and resist debuffs. As far as I know it is still one of the few super quick kill stacks still in the game for PvP.

To the OP.

I pretty much endorse everything my old friend Sivar said. Speed/power is life for Engineer escorts in PvP, because high resist/defense is basically the only way to compensate for being incapable of dealing damage at rates Tact/Sci players can in Escorts. If you can't spike burst damage, you will be dead before your opponent, so be steady but make sure you can also spike hard effectively.

Escorts hit hard, but under constant pressure any Tac in an escort can be worn down.
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# 24
09-27-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by echodarksided View Post
Prometh3eous,

No sweat, EPtW3 isn't a very widely used skill because in reality, there are very few ships with a LCDR Engineering BO that are considered escort class. With that said, +25% damage for 5 seconds can be very useful when stacked, particularly for a decloak alpha BO3 from a science officer who also hits with damage buffs and resist debuffs. As far as I know it is still one of the few super quick kill stacks still in the game for PvP.

Escorts hit hard, but under constant pressure any Tac in an escort can be worn down.
Lol echo, no sweat for me at all. I guess it all depends on tactics at some point. For hit and run, yea, it may be very useful, I agree, but IMO that's not something very useful in a 5 vs 5. Personal preference maybe, again, not to say you're not correct.

Still, decloaking alpha on a sci captain?
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# 25
09-27-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trueprom3theus View Post
Still, decloaking alpha on a sci captain?
I know, I know...

I'm not really in a fleet where we have premades though, so when you live a PUGs life you have to make it interesting somehow, and being very unconventional is usually the only way to catch the other team offguard when you Pug.

Which really goes back to the original post... want to learn how to play an Engineer in an Escort? Then pug alot. Most escorts without heals are dirtnap bait, so when you figure out how to tank your escort while actually killing someone else you'll have figured out the Eng/Escort thing. The key is experiment a lot, because everytime someone claims they have seen it all in PvP, something new becomes the new fad.
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# 26
09-27-2012, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by echodarksided View Post
I know, I know...

I'm not really in a fleet where we have premades though, so when you live a PUGs life you have to make it interesting somehow, and being very unconventional is usually the only way to catch the other team offguard when you Pug.

Which really goes back to the original post... want to learn how to play an Engineer in an Escort? Then pug alot. Most escorts without heals are dirtnap bait, so when you figure out how to tank your escort while actually killing someone else you'll have figured out the Eng/Escort thing. The key is experiment a lot, because everytime someone claims they have seen it all in PvP, something new becomes the new fad.
I'm mostly a puger myself, and lots of the comments on the pvp forum sometimes go contradicting pug opinions vs premade opinions, where, in fact, both are valid from their own point of view. Agree, most premade build escorts don't hold their own very well in pugs, mostly due to team being selfish and not healing and also due to the unpredictable nature of the pug. Many pugs are 3-4 escorts plus a sci/cruiser vs 3-4 cruisers and an escort. And 4 cruiser team still doesn't heal eachother, lol.

That's why cryptic should start by making some walkthrough where pveer fights some tougher npcs that cycle abilities and use tt. Something similar with the mission they made for bortie and ody. But we all know that's not going to happen...
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