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# 21
09-28-2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by husanakx View Post
Whats funny is paxs fleet complains like you won't believe if they get SS thrown on them... lol
We do not complain when we get scrambled. We are aware that Scrambles are a part of the game and we accept that. We try to counter it.

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Originally Posted by husanakx View Post
... which is why all there teams revolve around 4 copies. lol
Um yeah sure buddy.

I don't believe that making obviously misleading statements regarding another fleet reflects favourably on you. It's immature at best.

And also it sounds as if you guys don't use SS at all. We have it on tape how you also use SS against us you know. So, if you guys use it it's OK but if others use it, it's evil? Hypocrite much?

Here the link. At 00:15 in the video you can see how I'm getting scrambled by you guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Navzb3Fns

So please, don't give me that.

If there is such a bug, one can also claim that YOU GUYS try to exploit it. Since you claim to know about such a bug one could also claim that's even worse. As a matter of fact, one could claim that every-f'ing-one who has even ONE copy of SS in even ONE of their ships equipped is most likely a cheater/exploiter. You know, why else use SS?


Yes, we sometimes are running with one Sci/Sci that sometimes has one copy of SS. Most of the times we don't run with any copy of SS. But we usually like to use one copy of SS against well known SNB DOFF abusers. You know, in order to try to level the playing field.


Husanak, believe it or not but I am actually a friend of civil discussion. But I also bite back when I think me or my buddies are unwarrantedly smeared. When the smearing stops, I also stop.

I believe most of you Critz guys are good sports. Let's keep this thread clean. If you want to talk about something, why don't you come to our TS?



@ilhansk

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# 22
09-28-2012, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
You know what might help it get fixed? Exact, step-by-step explanations of how to make it happen to a fellow player, without fail.

But not publicly. Please PM me the steps. I guarantee no actions will be taken against you for telling us how to repro a code bug.

Bort you may have been confused by the interfleet sniping here. There is no way to lock an opposing team's tray intentionally. Not an issue. The bug seems to occur when you are scrambled and are trying to use abilities and die suddenly. When you respawn you sometimes find that your tray *looks* useable, but some or all of your powers will not work.

Personal experience anecdotally finds that you need to die very, very quickly while under scram to get this bug to happen. As Pax points out, when we try to reproduce it in a testing environment we can't seem to do so. Yet it happens in pvp very frequently.

On the Turk RP thing. Yes, everyone knows that SS and AMS can bug you out. Everyone knows how to fix it by logging. I believe that the angst in the thread accrued because after getting tray bugged multiple times in a match a Turk member who probably isn't around as much complained about it in zone, which struck many strongly as hypocrisy since you guys run SS. People often conflate one person's random complaint with an entire fleet, (happens to Critz too all the time since our members are....outspoken if I'm trying to be nice when describing fleeties) when it was more just one person's random comment than a fleet sentiment. Of course, most of Critz and Opvp dogpiled on as we are wont to do which was, in retrospect, inappropriate.

As far as using SS, Critz generally doesn't run it, although we have a couple of specialized SS3 builds that we use specifically for Turk Rp to show how annoying it is. We don't debate the absolute acceptability of Turk's choice to run it, even with the tray bug as it's part of the game. But we made a decision as a fleet to use it when fighting Turks to demonstrate the annoyance factor of having to log in and out multiple times a match. That being said we have found a couple of new members using AMS in random matches and we told them to knock that crap off when we heard about it.

Turks are good players, and we really, REALLY like playing against you. There aren't many good premades around in the Central/West coast time zones that provide a challenge. Turks always bring it. Sometimes we bug you about playing, but it's mostly because if one premade gets to play you, generally there is another premade whining on TS that they didn't get to play and to stop hogging all the Turk matches. Secondly you guys always bring unorthodox setups and not the 4 cruiser 1 tacscort setups that get very boring. This means that we can bring strange things (someone brought a tac orb with cannons and torps despite much internal eye rolling one night) and that makes pvp fun. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but at least it's always interesting. You also make really good vids, although we don't have the same taste in music.

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# 23
09-28-2012, 10:56 AM
I always carry a Sci team on my jemmy :O

Last time we saw RP they used stack snb doffs rather then SS though i didnt see a single SS
Guess its always one or the other.



Oh and im unbanned again hehe woo
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# 24
09-28-2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by zyphoid7 View Post

As far as using SS, Critz generally doesn't run it, although we have a couple of specialized SS3 builds that we use specifically for Turk Rp to show how annoying it is. We don't debate the absolute acceptability of Turk's choice to run it, even with the tray bug as it's part of the game. But we made a decision as a fleet to use it when fighting Turks to demonstrate the annoyance factor of having to log in and out multiple times a match. That being said we have found a couple of new members using AMS in random matches and we told them to knock that crap off when we heard about it.


Nixus
We are not annoyed. But I'm sure I can speak for everyone in Turkish RP Heroes that we appreciate the positive sentiments.

We should run some tests on this SS problem once more, this time together. In attendance should be those that have been effected by it.

-PaxOttomana of Turkish RP Heroes (RP stands for Not Annoyed)

Last edited by paxottoman; 09-28-2012 at 12:10 PM.
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# 25
09-28-2012, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ilhansk View Post
Husanak, believe it or not but I am actually a friend of civil discussion. But I also bite back when I think me or my buddies are unwarrantedly smeared. When the smearing stops, I also stop.
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So let's go back to the civil part of the discussion, folks.
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# 26
09-28-2012, 12:21 PM
Please don't ban me bro!
i'll do what you say yo!
But I aint no snitch tho!

Peace!
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# 27
09-28-2012, 12:45 PM
Hmm. My fault? I flamed a bit in an Arena about a sci-spam team of 2 non-critz and 3 other non-critz; using LOTS of scramble, no AMS though. I left the match (with 14 on the scoreboard, didn't want that dirty, scrambled dilithium anyway) and then bailed another time when I saw that team in my match again.

That stuff is a personal preference for playing- In RP we don't want to use the SNB DOFFs and will take them off if agreed to- we sometimes use SS (never AMS)- we look for quality combat, not teams full of sci spam or drain carriers that are a pain in the ass to play against. But there is a perception among us that some of the fleets out there just want to win at all costs and put their gimmicky stuff all over their ships- so we throw in the SNB DOFFs to compete. Yeah, we stack them high against some opponents, and use none at all against others or if agreed upon before mission start.

Being accused of anything that's not true is disconcerting. What's really dumb is being accused of SS/AMS spamming when maybe it shows up in a PUG, but not our Premades, and the accusers are known for pulling it out in a pinch as well. That's the real hypocrisy. We carry a copy of SS sometimes, but our habits don't revolve around it; at least there's a counter for it. We generally have something more desirable in those slots. A few points in sensors seems to handle the effect just fine......It's the 5 copies plus 5 AMS that is REALLY bad.


We'd like to be known for being helpful in PvP; we've come across fleet-mades with guys on voice that just haven't set the teams and builds up well and STOP the match to counsel and help them with knowledge and insights into team PvP. We want quality PvP, and since some things in the game aren't quite as perfectly balanced or working quite as intended doesn't mean we can't shed the BS and construct quality PvP matches with some rules in place. Some think PvP is the wild west, when that's really Ker'rat . Organized PvP matches can have grown people in them that desire a quality match and set up to do so- agree not to spam SS, cut down on the pets, take off the SNB DOFFs, whatever... Quality combat, not bugged-out, lagged-out, P2W crap all over the place.

Next up- Trike Bombers...

Last edited by commandodan2001; 09-28-2012 at 12:53 PM.
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# 28
09-28-2012, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ilhansk View Post
please Don't Ban Me Bro!
I'll Do What You Say Yo!
But I Aint No Snitch Tho!

Peace!
Omfg Reported!
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# 29
09-28-2012, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by paxottoman View Post
I'm getting complaints about my fleet members using scramble sensors. This is either due to a bug or because the victims do not have appropriate counters for it.

Either way, if you are bugged by SS. Fraps yourself being scrambled, and then after effect of the bug. If you are strictly complaining about SS because it's annoying, well that's just something you need to work on.

Provide proof it is in fact broken being broken as we have been running tests to prove this. There have not been any tangible results to say the least. The running of scramble sensors is not vindictive by Turkish RP Heroes. If you decide to discuss your disgruntlement, we can arrange a meeting. Proof on these forums will promp the Devs to fix this problem, just like how they fixed the weapons stop firing problem.

I'm PaxOttomana and I approve this message.

-PaxOttomana of Turkish RP Heroes (RP somehow stands for SS).
So just so e1 is clear, if someone posts a vid of it being broken, you guys will stop using it? Or will you pull the "we're using it so it gets attention from the devs to fix it" card?
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# 30
09-28-2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paxottoman View Post
I'm getting complaints about my fleet members using scramble sensors. This is either due to a bug or because the victims do not have appropriate counters for it.

Either way, if you are bugged by SS. Fraps yourself being scrambled, and then after effect of the bug. If you are strictly complaining about SS because it's annoying, well that's just something you need to work on.

Provide proof it is in fact broken being broken as we have been running tests to prove this. There have not been any tangible results to say the least. The running of scramble sensors is not vindictive by Turkish RP Heroes. If you decide to discuss your disgruntlement, we can arrange a meeting. Proof on these forums will promp the Devs to fix this problem, just like how they fixed the weapons stop firing problem.

I'm PaxOttomana and I approve this message.

-PaxOttomana of Turkish RP Heroes (RP somehow stands for SS).

PvP = pay real money to get the best ship, tech, silly gadgets. Get 4 friends with the same pathetic 'pwn pwn pwn' attitude. They go call everyone else nubs because they can't handle 5 ships unloading on them.

Nothing more than cheating in my eyes... PvP is dead...

Idiots always ruin the things they use the most... PvP included
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