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# 111
10-23-2012, 04:33 PM
BFI DOff changes?? Interesting.
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# 112
10-23-2012, 04:49 PM
siphon drones and BFI changes.

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# 113
10-23-2012, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
It's actually already on Tribble, as it's included in our baseline for the next code branch.

It should show up on Redshirt this week, though. Along with the BFI-Doff changes.
awesome, i dont recall seeing it on the tribble notes though. maybe more complete notes are needed ?
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# 114
10-23-2012, 07:10 PM
already got word of the "fix" and that it isnt effective enough. all it has done is extend your life by a couple a of seconds.

siphion drones need a hard cap on how much each drone can take.
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# 115
10-23-2012, 07:17 PM
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already got word of the "fix" and that it isnt effective enough. all it has done is extend your life by a couple a of seconds.

siphion drones need a hard cap on how much each drone can take.
Or how much you can be drained from a certain source.

Siphon Drones (the speed, but not magnitude of the drain can scale with multiple drones on you) drain for a maximum of X. Tyken's can drain for Y. Polarons can drain for Z.

You can get drained for X+Y+Z, but X/Y/Z all have a hard cap on the total amount that they can drain from you.
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# 116
10-23-2012, 09:08 PM
1500x4 so 6000 for each facing is pretty small, 1-4 dual heavy shots would destroy that defence and maybe the time it takes to activate that power could of been spent concentrating on getting behind your attacker etc. Only having it a one time shield heal is good but the heal should be a bit bigger (maybe make the heal the same as what the borg (or similar) shield capacity would be on the ship you are using so that people who are using lower capacity shields are not at a disadvantage but I still am afraid that won't be enough (maybe do it once then again 5 seconds later).

An alternative would be to decrease the amount of time the regen happens to lower than 15 seconds say 5-10secs (since the amount of time BFI is up is one of the bigger issues with it imo) and maybe also lowering the amount of regen per second.

Edit: I just tested power siphon drones (in a Kar'Fi) against my level seven char on an alt account (I know theirs nothing in insulators but its more the general way the drones work thats important) and the drain is still far to much in power that is about 100 (close enough to 125) which will still make escorts (usally where weapon power is critical) almost useless against a Kar'Fi or any other KDF carrier for that matter. I think that only one hanger should be able to be slotted and its wings decreased to 1 with a maximum deployment of 2 wings in total ever.

Also maybe disabling its use on the Kar'Fi since the drones should not be used on a ship with such offensive potential (although Vo'Quv isn't terribly far behind it) and should only help with a science ship that can't deal much damage (when teamed thats fair enough for the support thats what science is meant to do).

Also the Kar'Fi Fer'Jai Frigates also should have their Aceton beam weapon decrease divided by 2 or 4 and the Daube should also have a tractor beam lockout cooldown about double (or several seconds more of double) of the changes mentioned at some point is this thread (15/16 seconds?).

Note: Numbers in this post are almost always rough estimates

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# 117
10-23-2012, 09:18 PM
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Or how much you can be drained from a certain source.

Siphon Drones (the speed, but not magnitude of the drain can scale with multiple drones on you) drain for a maximum of X. Tyken's can drain for Y. Polarons can drain for Z.

You can get drained for X+Y+Z, but X/Y/Z all have a hard cap on the total amount that they can drain from you.
How about something simple:

Your Power Insulators (to a small degree) and EPS Systems (to a large degree) increases the minimum power level you are left with while being drained.

So let's say if you take 50 points of both, you'd end up with roughly 50 power at the minimum while being drained.
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# 118
10-23-2012, 09:56 PM
has anyone checked out the bfi doffs on tribble yet?
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# 119
10-23-2012, 10:02 PM
As my above post states (unclearly I must admit) for me its a 50% 1500 shield heal once (Edit: to each facing) ever when BFI is activated at purple doff level.

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# 120
10-24-2012, 01:17 AM
happy just to see something happens on those things, keep it on .

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