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# 61
10-08-2012, 12:04 PM
Just going to put this right here:
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I hope people will remember that the Vesta will not be a "god ship" in STO. Balance trumps [soft] canon. Your Galaxy-X's phaser lance didn't annihilate Negh'Vars and your transphasic torpedoes won't one-shot a Borg Cube. The Vesta will be just this: a nice model, a science vessel (with presumably a different boff lineup than other ships), and a special console. So please, do not expect an "I win" vessel.
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# 62
10-08-2012, 12:53 PM
I think the bigger isue here is that if it dosen't keep up with fleet ships stat wise it WILL bomb hard, becuase there's just no reason to use it over the alternatives. Also as i've stated elsewhere given it's actual size, (Sov), the chancs of it having a turn rate high enough to actually use cannons is near zero. So weather it can mount cannons or not isn't going to matter worth a damm.
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# 63
10-08-2012, 01:55 PM
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an insidious plot against the empire indeed
Its for their own good anyway! In the future its discovered prolonged exposure to cloak made Klingon foreheads extra wrinkly!

As far as what's been said in thins thread... I think it'll be a regular +1 ship. A T5 in other words. I also think they will add a fleet version that needs a T5 starbase.

It might also be a destroyer. At first I thought "Destroyer" was what Escorts were called in the MU, but i hear that's also the class for the new 1000 day vet ships... so now I think they just made a new class.... an Escort with a little something extra lol. Not sure WHAT that little extra is in the Mobius though, I had assumed it was built as a contemporary to the armitage, trading a fighter bay for extra durability, but now i'm not so sure. Unless the Armitage is really a destroyer too, which would make sense.

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# 64
10-09-2012, 01:27 PM
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if they choose the high licence does that mean they will make the ship super OP to make sales huge and win on that side?
If I ran a business, I'd take the "in house" ideas and make them OP so I keep 100% of the profit, and make the "licensed" boats "strong but not game breaking" (aka tier 5+1) counting on the desire for the "licensed" part to be what makes me the money from them.

Then I win both ways, to "look cool" you shell out for the licensed ship, for P2W effect you shell out for my shop's personal design...

I mean, really. Oddessy > Galaxy, Regent > Sovereign, Armitage > Defiant (yeah, I know it comes with the "free" Akira skin, but I don't think you're buying the Armitage for the Akira skin...). All we need is an in-house designed science ship that trumps the Intrepid to complete the set of replacements for the TNG crowd...
Well, with the upgrade announcement leaving NX and Connie fans in the dust again, can we restart / revisit the T5 Connie and NX threads - since they will no longer be "truly" endgame ships... (after we get the T5 versions, it'll be time to see them added to the T5U upgrade charts too...

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# 65
10-11-2012, 06:35 AM
well , you may be onto something after all levi , much as it pains me to say it , geko stated on twitter he was working on three different systems for the vesta on twitter , this implies to me a ship pack , or three different variants , though wether this is true is anyones guess , but i cant see it all being a single console realistically
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# 66
10-11-2012, 06:42 AM
The Vesta while has had a lot of quality work
Put into it and that quality shows the overall
Appearance of the ship is

Fugly

It's going to need great boff layouts and strong
Consoles as well as decent speed hull shields
And maneuverability to sell

Too overcome the ( Fugly ) effect
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# 67
10-11-2012, 07:07 AM
thats opinion , no more no less :p
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# 68
10-11-2012, 07:56 AM
since only minimal resources, other than time, was involved in creating ships for sto...i would say the profit is gigantig in relation to the revenue.

even with less than 1000 sold...a profit is made.
I can't imagine how a ship that is designed out of thin air, could possibly be a financial desaster.
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# 69
10-11-2012, 10:32 AM
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Why else did you think the Chinese moneygrubbers bought over this game's developers?

PS: I'm a Chinese moneygrubber myself.
It seems everything is chinese now. Most of my stuff is made there, i eat "americanized" chinese food (I eat it so much i am very good with chopsticks), i now play chinese owned games. They are taking over the world :/

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First off if you think PvP will ever be brought back to life or rescued from the grave - I have some ocean view property in the very centre of the Sahara Desert to sell you.

Second the ship was a 1 shot - 1 kill Borg tactical Cube destroyer so yes it was pretty OP
PvP cant die it cant! It does need some miracle worker and rsp to save it though. It doesnt matter after over two years of neglect dstah just needs to come out of the closet about pvp. By that time I will most likely be gone.
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# 70
10-11-2012, 10:37 AM
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since only minimal resources, other than time, was involved in creating ships for sto...i would say the profit is gigantig in relation to the revenue.

even with less than 1000 sold...a profit is made.
I can't imagine how a ship that is designed out of thin air, could possibly be a financial desaster.
That depends on how much they had to pay to get the license/righst to do this particular ship (I believe they were in negoiations for ove a year.)
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