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# 1 DHC damage type
02-18-2013, 05:09 PM
just want to get some info maybe from a turk rp scort driver or anyone else with in depth pvp knowlege. is there a preferred damage type that scorts prefer on dhcs? i noticed that phased polarons have 2 seperate decent procs on em.... does it really make a difference what dmg type you choose?
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# 2
02-18-2013, 05:40 PM
No it doesnt make a difference what you choose so go nuts, BUT anything except plasma alone is fine. When I mean 'plasma alone' that means the weapon only does plasma damage which is not good in PvP b'cuz the majority of PvPers use ship gear, shields specifically, that have a fairly decent plasma energy type resistance. The only real exception is using plasma/disruptor hybrid weapons, where the main damage type is disruptor damage, while the extra proc it can give is the plasma DoT burn. That should answer your query.

Your welcome

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# 3
02-18-2013, 07:19 PM
Phaser: I still find them powerful after the nerf. Dropping subsystems even for a couple seconds could mean the target is dead in the water, has no shields or cant heal.

Disruptor: I dont see this as much. The proc is good, but there are better choices IMHO

Polaron: Works well in conjunction with other drains. I think of it more like a "spread out" phaser effect. You arent going to shut the system down completely, but anything on such low power barely does anything.

Antiproton: Good for crit builds or the Vet ships with their inherrant accuracy bonus. You can only get 1 accuracy mod which makes them miss more than other weapons.

Tetryon: Dropping shields is always nice.

Plasma: Dont use plasma because most of the shields people use will have a 20% resistance.

The most common I see are phaser, tetryon and polaron.
There are weapons out there with double procs. You sacrifice 1 of the three mods for another proc. I think phased-tetryon or just phaser or tetryon is the best for an escort. I like [acc]x2 [crth] on my single proc weapons.
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# 4
02-18-2013, 07:24 PM
Fleet AP's, the advanced, can come with damx3 and crit d. They have a built in 30% crit severity. This nets you 40% crit severity, on top of the innate 50%. Once you add skills and abilities, you can trigger an alpha easily over 100% crit severity. Plus, the damx3 feeds right into base damage. Crit damage is a percentage of base damage. Your crit damage will therefore increase. Plus, you strive to shoot only when in AccOverflow, where ALL your shots are hits. Your normal damage done increases.
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# 5
02-19-2013, 08:13 AM
excellent, thank you for the responses. while i am aware that success in pvp is more timing you re abilities and in the correct order, i still wanted to make the right decision to complement a tac BoP
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# 6
02-19-2013, 08:23 AM
As long as you don't rainbow it up its not hard to screw up.

All weapons do equal dmg assuming same level and mods... plasma is the only iffy one due to extra shield resists for the borg.

Pretty much consider what your running on your bop skill wise and try to complement with procs.

If your build doesn't have a theme like energy drain, or shield stripping ect... you can't go wrong with phasers or disruptors.

The bop only really has 2 rear slots for turrets... 1 if you are running a KCB... so this isn't as big a deal as if you say run a standard escort style ship. One thing I like to do recently however is run the turrets as hybrid weapons.

So I would run say 4 regular Polaron DHC... and then load 2 Phased polaron turrets... same weapon type but the turrets would give you a pretty good proc rate on the phaser proc with little cost to your dps. (turrets don't do much anyway... so loosing a mod and a slight amount of base dmg, for a phaser / polaron proc might be worth it... on my klinks I think I have a few toons with disruptors and the pol disruptors in the back)
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# 7
02-19-2013, 09:58 AM
Just because this comes up fairly often, procs are the last thing you consider if you're building an Alpha BoP. And as that's the only reasonable BoP to build you really take one option. 40% crit severity.

What possible 2.5% proc could trump that? You get exactly ONE shot. So there's your chance. If the proc was "kill every fed in the continental U.S" well sure maybe.

Even USING DHC's in AccOverflow there's no proc that will outdamage that. Don't need to drain your power or knock systmes off line. You don't have any defense anyway. I already know you don't have Omega. Cause if you did....I wouldn't be shooting you. Don't really care about your shields. You don't have TT because if you did....... I wouldn't be shooting you. I don't need to debuff your resistances. You've got FOMM all over you. Because you don't have TT.

A Jemmy beating the living TAR out of someone with a phased lolaron build is in fact epic. It's also very very messed up. That tactic is part of how they achieve those huge crit strings.

BoP's simply achieve that AccOverflow state in a different manner. So these may be fantastic answers for 'scorts, and that IS what the OP asked for so no fault, I'm just saying...he needs BoP info.

Cheers all. And hey, where do these blue color effing cannons come from? I MUST HAVE!
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# 8
02-19-2013, 05:56 PM
Thanks again thissler, and yes I meant BoP dmg types. I dont go near anything but them, save for a raptor from time to time. And youre ever so subtle stressing of only picking the non moving targets at the right time has not been lost on me, employing this, I have seen a 35k on hull crit tonight in kerrat, using bo2 no less,.vaporized him.....only happened once so far but wow was it pretty :-)

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# 9
02-19-2013, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by beefsupreme79 View Post
Thanks again thissler, and yes I meant BoP dmg types. I dont go near anything but them, save for a raptor from time to time. And youre ever so subtle stressing of only picking the non moving targets at the right time has not been lost on me, employing this, I have seen a 35k on hull crit tonight in kerrat, using bo2 no less,.vaporized him.....only happened once so far but wow was it pretty :-)
It's all about the pretty. And keep in mind, it's proper that they should be watching over thier shoulder for you. You're improving the herd. And if you're distracting them from what they should be doing even when you're not actively attacking them, how can that be bad?

Cheers and glad you're seeing some success!
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# 10
02-19-2013, 06:52 PM
I know you love and probaly have played the alpha bop more then me (well perhaps) but I will still disagree with you... crtd is terrible bottom line. It barely increases the dmg of crits at all. Seriously its 20% of the CRITICAL dmg... meaning that if

1000 is the base
1500 is the crit (not assuming any skill points, or other bonuses)
with 40% CrtD that 1500 would in fact be 1700...

That is TERRIBLE considering you are giving up any proc and any other mods.

Yes Disruptor and Phaser are both better options. There is no such thing as a bad phaser proc... if it hits you are with out a shield while your getting alphaed... or with out and engine and any defense... or with out any aux heals. Even a weapon proc is ok for the confusion factor alone.

Sorry AP weapons have always been the worst option for any ship including 5s or I'm running kill builds.
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