I put in brackets things I would prefer about this.

The extra weapon slot would make it more cruiser like, it gets a slightly lower turn rate to account for this, it's lower hull would allow for more speed capability, I personally would rather the Lt and Ens stations were universal for that extra bit of flexibility which as a border patrol cruiser it would have/need.

I could see your design although the Excelsior neck really calls for a circular saucer and if the oddy nacelles are anything to go by I'm not a fan of their idea of 2409 nacelle design, I think maybe one of the assault cruiser variants or the regent nacelles on the swept back pylons

If need be make it a C-store ship, I'd happily farm the dilithium for it

[quote=adamkafei;6030201]I put in brackets things I would prefer about this.

The extra weapon slot would make it more cruiser like, it gets a slightly lower turn rate to account for this, it's lower hull would allow for more speed capability, I personally would rather the Lt and Ens stations were universal for that extra bit of flexibility which as a border patrol cruiser it would have/need.
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I would have no issue with some universal stations in the design as you outlined. I'm very much a fan of flexibility.

As for the neck section, it would likely need to be a whole new design. What I was implying was to give it a neck, where many of the 2370-2380 designs had no neck, or integrated neck sections, as evidenced in the Sovereign, Intrepid and Nova designs.

I would imagine the neck would have some similarity to the Galaxy neck, however it would only be about 1/2 or 1/3 as tall as the Galaxy neck, and instead of a reduced profile at the primary hull connection point, would maintain a width for structural integrity.

For the nacelles, I wouldn't mind if they were similar in style to the Odyssey, but obviously they wouldn't be nearly as long as what was found on the Odyssey.

I would have no problem with it being a C-Store ship either. But with my luck, they'd probably make it a lockbox ship.

they couldn't make that spec a lockbox ship, it's not overpowered in any way and there isn't a P2W console.

I would go into a lockbox versions specs but then they'd do that instead because of Murphy's law

I've got an idea for your idea! How about the PWE guys make a ship with a saucer a hull and two necelles, and an upright yet mildly swept neck. It could be relatively small, and it looks a lot like an updated 2409 version of the original enterprise. And I dunno, they could call it a "Cruiser" it would have a high rate of turn, 8 weapon slots, and fleet like stats.

Seriously, it sounds like this could be easily adapted too a fleet cruiser. They could even call it an excaliber for all I care.

And while they're at it, they could add a fleet ship that has a small saucer, long nacelles, and a verticle neck, and call it a fleet excelsior. Oh, and heres another great idea! They could make a big ass ship, give it a huge superweapon and a cloak and three necelles. It could even look like a Galaxy or venture class. And they could give it an extra 10% hull and shields, and a tenth console slot, probably in tac consoles. And I dunno, maybe call it a fleet dreadnaught.

And while they're at it, they could cater too someone who wants too g all warrior on these ships, and make a faction for them! And they could give them some sick abilities and ships, and a fully fledged story and as many ships as the federation. And maybe, just maybe, they could call it the KDF.

Then I'd start calling this game Star Trek Online again...

But I doubt they'll listen to us players. Look I get it devs, you don't see these messages. I know I'm wasting my breath, but come on. I even understand the lockboxes. You run a business. But stop focusing on your overhead, and focus on what we want. CCP did that with EVE online, and I'm seriously considering dropping this game and going back too that one. Yeah, it might be spreadsheet online, but there was always something for everyone...

For this, it's only for that person who loves escorts and has deep pockets...

After reading the OP, it looks like you kinda got your wish with the 1000-day Vet Reward: Chimera Heavy Destroyer...

Now granted, it isn't visually in the same vein as a traditional Fed Cruiser design, but it doesn't look half bad either. It's just the way to get it, that's the PITA.

Thank you for the time...

You are correct. In fact, it's funny that they announced the ship the same day, or a day after I made my original post.

I really like the stats and specs on the Chimera, and it's size is about what I would like.

If Cryptic were to put those stats (or the ones I suggested, without the special console) into a more traditional Starfleet cruiser-esque design, in the form of a C-Store ship, I'd be all over that like jelly on peanut butter.



Problem is, Cryptic isn't known for "duplicating" their efforts, and sadly, the Chimera may be the only ship of it's kind that we ever see. So basically I can pay $199.00 for an LTS, to get a ship that is similar to what I'd like to have, but looks nothing like I would want to fly, or I can pretty much give up the idea, because we aren't likely to see a conventional Starfleet ship with these kinds of specs anytime soon, if ever again.

this is one of the big problems I have with Cryptic. They seem to think that every ship they build has to be some prototype special snowflake vessel, and they seem to stay far away from the more standard fair of conventional or "traditional" Starfleet ships.

Consider the following vessels:

(Includes all variants)

Sabre - Looks like a fighter jet mated with a flying saucer
Cheyenne - 4 nacelles
Akira - Looks like a duck with it's legs under it's body
Defiant - Flying brick
Luna - An Akira duck on steroids, with malignent growths on it's back
Trident - Looks like a submarine. Makes me think "Seaquest" not "Star Trek"
Dervish - Another fighter jet wannabe
Prometheus - Another 4 nacelle ship
Atrox - Who knows what this looks like, but it reminds me of Romulan design

Granted, you have canon vessels in there, and Cryptic can't be blamed for that, but now you have the new Chimera added, which once again doesn't follow the "traditional" design of Starfleet vessels, so you either have to learn to love the styles you hate, or you are out of luck.

You could also get an Armitage, it pretty much has all you are asking for (except for the standard cruiser appearance, but is appearance everything)?

Looks like a good build, but without knowing some other specifics, like hull strength, turn rate, etc. it's hard to say for certain.

If given a hull of about 33-35k, with a turn rate of about 10-13 deg/sec, this would be a fine ship.

As you pointed out, the Lt. Cmdr. Uni slot might be a bit much, but I think dual Lt. Uni slots would be doable.

i agree , having two lt commanders is a bit much really , though downgrade it to a lt and it'd work fine