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# 61
10-09-2012, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by boglejam73 View Post
And that is really what it is all about to you, eh? You want to be able to fly around in a 1000-day ship and say "Suck it noobs! I had a spare 300 bucks back in 2010 and you didn't! Aint I cool?!"
I would say it's more about showing the dedication you had when the fate of the game was very much in question (and this around the time Hellgate and that cops and robbers MMO were crashing and burning at their launches). I'd say it's more about showing that you were willing to take that risk and invest early on. That you're still here after the Year of Hell where we all had about 11 months with just about zero new content that wasn't a CStore item, while the game was still sub-based, so that Cryptic could make the switch over to F2P. That you're still here after F2P when your subscription got ridiculously devalued by their hair-brained idea to make ending a monthly sub not remove the things you'd unlocked for subbing. That you're still here after P2W. Here after dropping the ball on PvP for three years. Dropping the ball on the KDF for three years. Still here after... everything.

I'd say a lot of people would like it as a badge of honor that they've but up with all of Cryptic's bull **** for a quadruple digit number of days....

... don't we deserve our battle scars? To wear our bruises with pride?

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Originally Posted by tali9999 View Post
To be realistic, old players with Lifetime subs who are never buying Zen are not helping one notch to keep the game alive.
Pfft! Who never buys Zen? The stipend is a pittance and is only worth a damn if you buy maybe one item a year. You make more Zen grinding Dilithium and exchanging it than you do from the pitiful little stipend Cryptic gives out...
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# 62
10-09-2012, 09:50 PM
I'm a lousy Silver and I feed on your tears!

This opens up for more lifers to get the 1000+ rewards at the same time as everyone else.

Though at this point all those on m2m Gold should just jump to LTS if you think the game is going to survive another year. If not, stay m2m because that's where you are getting your money's worth.

Sunk cost are assets that are written off. Not even accounted for in the books, unless you've sold it for cash, and then it appears during the fiscal year.

Btw, doesn't Gold membership give you a discount in the z-store?
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To be able to smile and forgive everything;
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# 63
10-09-2012, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by happyhappyj0yj0y View Post
I would say it's more about showing the dedication you had when the fate of the game was very much in question (and this around the time Hellgate and that cops and robbers MMO were crashing and burning at their launches). I'd say it's more about showing that you were willing to take that risk and invest early on. That you're still here after the Year of Hell where we all had about 11 months with just about zero new content that wasn't a CStore item, while the game was still sub-based, so that Cryptic could make the switch over to F2P. That you're still here after F2P when your subscription got ridiculously devalued by their hair-brained idea to make ending a monthly sub not remove the things you'd unlocked for subbing. That you're still here after P2W. Here after dropping the ball on PvP for three years. Dropping the ball on the KDF for three years. Still here after... everything.

I'd say a lot of people would like it as a badge of honor that they've but up with all of Cryptic's bull **** for a quadruple digit number of days....

... don't we deserve our battle scars? To wear our bruises with pride?

I'm going to go with....No


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# 64
10-09-2012, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mbomberdavid View Post
It is a Great idea!!! Lol. New titles like Mr. Bling, Da'LobeMeister, RichyRich, and Perfect World Tycoon. etc..

Also, the more you spend the more "bling" that shows. Gold chains, rings, shiny gold tooth, etc...
LMAO! I've bought so many Master Keys that all my chars should be allowed to wear Latinum crowns over their head.

Great idea! I love it! These titles would make more sense than titles just for being subbed.
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# 65
10-09-2012, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
there are lots of silver players who been here a year and might now want to pay 300 bucks for a LTS , not like they are getting stuff for free.
True , but this is like waiting in line for a 1000 days and having someone w/a credit card cut in the line .

It's not about ppl getting LTS's . I'm always happy to see more Liberated Borg around .
This is about taking the term "veteran" and literally emptying it of meaning .
You cannot be a veteran and not have a single STF under your belt , or little to no understanding of the skill tree .
You cannot be a veteran and still ask where Admiral Quinn's office is or where to go to play Foundry missions (or never hearing about he Foundry at all) .

You have no problem with ppl getting all the vet percs "gangnam style" ?
I have no problem with ppl getting LTS's .
But I do think that to be a "vet" you have to walk the walk -- and that makes me no more "entitled" then your thinking makes you "enlightened" or "socialist" or "communist" or "capitalist" .

I now refuse to turn on my "vet" title (which is 998 days as of today) , because CRYPTIC HAS TURNED IT INTO A JOKE . A BAD SAD JOKE .

This is about Cryptic being lazy once again , and instead of sprucing up the LTS awards so that a LTS becomes more attractive on it's own merits , they took the Vet merits and dumped them on the LTS accounts .

And since these ships are no longer a Vet award , but a LTS award ... -- where's my 1000 day Vet Award Cyptic ?
(see , the last part of that sentence WAS actually full of entitlement ... since Cryptic stole my vet award.)

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# 66
10-09-2012, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by khayuung View Post
Btw, doesn't Gold membership give you a discount in the z-store?
Pfft! No. It gives you $5 worth of points a month for spending $15 (1/3rd value), or $300 in a lump sum (1/60th value... which you'll earn back eventually... if the game lasts five years). No discount, just a stipend so small it takes you about half a year to buy one ship... so small you can't afford a new shirt...
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# 67
10-09-2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by happyhappyj0yj0y View Post
I would say it's more about showing the dedication you had when the fate of the game was very much in question (and this around the time Hellgate and that cops and robbers MMO were crashing and burning at their launches). I'd say it's more about showing that you were willing to take that risk and invest early on. That you're still here after the Year of Hell where we all had about 11 months with just about zero new content that wasn't a CStore item, while the game was still sub-based, so that Cryptic could make the switch over to F2P. That you're still here after F2P when your subscription got ridiculously devalued by their hair-brained idea to make ending a monthly sub not remove the things you'd unlocked for subbing. That you're still here after P2W. Here after dropping the ball on PvP for three years. Dropping the ball on the KDF for three years. Still here after... everything.

I'd say a lot of people would like it as a badge of honor that they've but up with all of Cryptic's bull **** for a quadruple digit number of days....

... don't we deserve our battle scars? To wear our bruises with pride?



Pfft! Who never buys Zen? The stipend is a pittance and is only worth a damn if you buy maybe one item a year. You make more Zen grinding Dilithium and exchanging it than you do from the pitiful little stipend Cryptic gives out...
Explain to me how you help the game when you grind Dilithium in order to get Zen?

The only way you help the game is by spending real money in it. I am not sayin that you do not but some people certainly do.

And devs get paid with real money, not Dilithium or Zen. Lifesubs sold a year ago are not paying the devs actual salaries. They always need new incomes and that special deal of Lifetime subs will certainly help them and the game.
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# 68
10-09-2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
I'm going to go with....No
So be it...

But some of us feel differently.

I too will not be turning back on my Career Officer title (for some weird reason I was changed back to a non-com while I was away from the game for the last several weeks)...,

Though to be honest I never used it during the hey-day of ATARI either, I actually only adopted it when PWE turned all of us into "PWE-Supporters" at the last forum over-haul...

I would rather be a nasty-smelly-old-jock-strap, than admitting to be one of those.
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# 69
10-09-2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tali9999 View Post
Explain to me how you help the game when you grind Dilithium in order to get Zen?
I don't. Who said I did? And who said it benefited the game? (though really, it actually does as it creates product for people to buy with Zen, thus incentive for them to buy Zen)

The point is that the stipend is so pathetically low that Dilithium grinding, even in small amounts, will earn you more Zen.
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# 70
10-09-2012, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by happyhappyj0yj0y View Post
I don't. Who said I did? And who said it benefited the game? (though really, it actually does as it creates product for people to buy with Zen, thus incentive for them to buy Zen)

The point is that the stipend is so pathetically low that Dilithium grinding, even in small amounts, will earn you more Zen.
Oh i see. We were just not talking about the same thing. And yes, the stipend is not worth much but again, they gave it to us free and it is worth 5$. It is like your 15$ sub is reduced to 10$. No big deal but still, it is something.
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