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# 81
10-13-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by captainbmoney View Post
No. We already took carriers. We take battlecloak then there is NO REASON to play a Klingon.
Why should there be a reason aside from liking Klingons?

I dunno. It's a fundamental design issue I have.

Missions should all be faction agnostic. Not just Fed reskinned faction agnostic but "practically zero input from command" faction agnostic.

After level 10 or so, no questgivers should be allied with any major power. That would make content equal.

Teaming or fighting should be up to the player.

And there should be no mechanical advantage or disadvantage or social advantage or disadvantage to playing any faction. Faction should boil down to costume, ships, DOff assignments, and a few mechanics, some of which respond to the way you approach missions.
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# 82
10-13-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
Why should there be a reason aside from liking Klingons?

I dunno. It's a fundamental design issue I have.

Missions should all be faction agnostic. Not just Fed reskinned faction agnostic but "practically zero input from command" faction agnostic.

After level 10 or so, no questgivers should be allied with any major power. That would make content equal.

Teaming or fighting should be up to the player.

And there should be no mechanical advantage or disadvantage or social advantage or disadvantage to playing any faction. Faction should boil down to costume, ships, DOff assignments, and a few mechanics, some of which respond to the way you approach missions.
There was an old member of the forums. Katic who I think some of you will remember. She fought for Faction Originality. Sadly she left after the Atrox was released and I understand why. Don't turn this anymore into Starfleet Online. This isn't Red Vs Blue Online. There should be some originality. in factions

Last edited by captainbmoney; 10-13-2012 at 01:57 PM.
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# 83
10-13-2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by captainbmoney View Post
No. We already took carriers. We take battlecloak then there is NO REASON to play a Klingon.
The Garumba is a darned good reason to play KDF. Especially if you can talk the Klingons on board to bathe.
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# 84
10-13-2012, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer1 View Post
The Garumba is a darned good reason to play KDF. Especially if you can talk the Klingons on board to bathe.
Very well said. I morn her loss until present day.
Cryptic's shamefull history with the KDF

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# 85
10-14-2012, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by captainbmoney View Post
There was an old member of the forums. Katic who I think some of you will remember. She fought for Faction Originality. Sadly she left after the Atrox was released and I understand why. Don't turn this anymore into Starfleet Online. This isn't Red Vs Blue Online. There should be some originality. in factions
So that's what happened to her.

I hope she does well wherever she's now.
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# 86
10-14-2012, 03:19 AM
I dont know what your whining about.
You already got over 75% off all the special KDF consoles (without even investing one cent into the C/Z-Store, only thing left now is the assimilator, leech and the gorn repair plats.

Well, why not mold all this together and where in.
No, **** this ****, if you dont have any orginality between the factions, wheres the point in ahving them.
And dont come me with balance, looks for , lets say, C&C.
You got NOD and GDI, both with total difrent tactical aproaches, GDI where the hard hitters, and NOD the stalthy backstabbers, and it worked perfect in balance.

Youre not on WoW, where you become goodlike with the epic equip.
If you want to own and get owned, you need to learn how to use you skills right, fly you ship, and on top of all, coordinate with you mates.
This goes for PvP as STFs, when you know, what you can do, and what you cant, you wont need any fancy console or other thing.

And get you facts right, the Defiant is an Escort, ergo the equalent of the Raptor, where a BoP (the only ship with a battlecloak aside the new vet ship) is a Raider, a total diffrent class.

You want Battlecloak for Defiant? np, than also give it to the Raptors and the Guramba, than we talk again ^^
...no wait, than you guys will whine even more.

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# 87
10-14-2012, 03:33 AM
I say we need more universal slots on ALL fed ships

This could possibly even out that de-cloak and alpha strike ability of the klingons.

Any why? o why? do ships that de-cloak have a 15% boost to their damage?

Isn't it bad enough that they cloak and therefore in control of the fight anyway?

It would make more sense if weapons were gimped for 5 secs after de-cloaking and not buffed?
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# 88
10-14-2012, 06:13 AM
ok to make it fair so the klinks cant over use the BC, make it only last say as the same ammount of time as the intrepids ablative generator with the same cool down
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# 89
10-14-2012, 07:16 AM
I say let the Defiant have a battle cloak and remove its 5th tactical console on the fleet version and change the cloak to a tactical console. Seems fair.
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# 90
10-14-2012, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by theultimatefunky View Post
ok to make it fair so the klinks cant over use the BC, make it only last say as the same ammount of time as the intrepids ablative generator with the same cool down
Yes and then to make IT FAIR, give the BOP the hull, shield and console setup of an Intrepid class vessel....

Please.

There is absolutely no argument to justify a ship with 5 TAC consoles and the durability/ manu. of the Defiant having the Battle Cloak, which the Feds go to great lengths to bemoan on KDF ships as the "extra tac console".

By that same logic, you are asking to much. A ship comparable to the Jem'Hadar Ship already, with "6 TAC consoles"...

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