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# 11
10-15-2012, 10:16 PM
No, that's actually a great thing to point out, and we are coming off a weekend as well (more players, more stuff for sale?). Granted, that is covered, but you probably need to sit at your computer for a while.
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Once you start getting into a decent amount of cash, it's time to seriously invest in certain things. Basic arbitrage can be irritating, but it can make you a decent racket ... if you can maintain it.

What is arbitrage? To put it bluntly, it's buying low and selling high. More complicated: it's controlling a specific market. Find a niche that isn't controlled already (that can be hard, but not impossible).

A good example might be duty officers. If you've got 5-10million, you could conceivably control the price of, say, common Assault Squad officers, artificially maintaining a price of 100,000 EC each. Any one of these that appear on the exchange below that price, you purchase and re-list at 100,000.

Yes, you initially lose out on some cash, but since due to Starbase construction projects requiring boat-loads of these, your assault squad officers WILL eventually sell, and you'll get your money back plus interest.
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Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 12
10-15-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ertihan View Post

There are maps of the optimal routes, and with some practice you can do this mission two or three times during the event, for a grand total of a little over a million EC for an hour's worth of work. Not too shabby.
First, isn't the 50K EC per faction block only that much for level 50 characters? Just investigating...

But more importantly...

YOU DO THE WHOLE TOUR?

There's no reason in the game to do that, when a couple of tricks can be used by your Federation toon to earn at least 2 Million EC. Four complete tours only yields 1.4 million.

Option One: Four Faction Transwarp Method
Before starting, get a purple (Very Rare) quality Astrometrics DOff. It reduces Transwarp cooldown
to 4 minutes. (Note: the following Galactic North/South relative to map up/down descriptors). Also obtain either Diplomatic Immunity OR Raiding Party buff right before starting first tour.

To start, from inside the Club at ESD, leave the station and the system as normal.
From Sol System, travel to edge of Beta Ursae Block.

Warp to Beta Ursae and change instances. That puts you in Cardassia Sector of BU, just South of Orellius Block.

Enter Orellius Block and traverse Deferi sector to northeast corner, cross just over the Raveh line.

Warp to Eta Eridani Block and change instances. That puts you in Donatu Sector, near Drozana Station.

Head to northeast corner of Donatu Sector where border of Archanis Sector meets Regulus block, staying just left of the corner. Warp to Regulus Block upon entering Archanis Sector.

On entering Regulus Block, head due west and warp to Sirius Block.

On entering Sirius Block, Risa Sector, take hard right and head into Gamma Orionis Gate.

Complete Gamma Orionis Block and enter Pelia Sector. Transwarp to ESD

Entire circuit should take less than four minutes. With both DI and RP, takes less than three. This should net you 200,000 EC per trip, and even if you only complete ten circuits (due to lag), that's 2 Million EC.

Option Two: Incomplete Mission Transwarp Method

Before starting, as above except ignore the Purple Astrometrics Doff and get both DI and RP if possible. Acquire the following missions using your Journal: Stranded in Space, Badlands, The Doomsday Device. Make sure you start with at least 18000 EC.

To start, from inside the Club, select "Badlands" from your active missions list and Transwarp for the cost of 18000 EC. This puts you instantly in Beta Ursae Block, Cardassia Sector, almost immediately next to the border with Orellius Block.
Complete the Orellius Block as normal.
On entering Eta Eridani Block, change instances to arrive right next to Drozana Station, and head due East toward Archanis Sector Border.

On entering Archanis Sector, select "The Doomsday Device" from your active missions list and Transwarp for the cost of 100 EC. This puts you instantly in Sirius Block, Risa Sector, not far from the Gamma Orionis Gateway. Head toward it and complete Gamma Orionis Block and Pelia Sector as normal.

On entering Pelia Block, select "Stranded in Space" from your active missions list and transwarp for the cost of 100 EC. This puts you not far from Sol Sector.

With both DI and RP, this should take less than three minutes, and net you 181,800 EC per trip, and if you complete fifteen circuits, that nets you more than 2.7 Million EC.

Last edited by dreamspider; 10-16-2012 at 11:08 AM.
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# 13
10-15-2012, 11:26 PM
And people wonder why EC becomes worthless after a point :p
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Ensign
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# 14
10-16-2012, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamspider
Entire circuit should take less than four minutes. With both DI and RP, takes less than three. This should net you 200,000 EC per trip, and even if you only complete four circuits (due to lag), that's 2 Million EC.
I may not be the best at math...but 200K x 4 Laps does not equal 2 Million...did I miss something?
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# 15
10-16-2012, 11:08 AM
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I may not be the best at math...but 200K x 4 Laps does not equal 2 Million...did I miss something?
Yeah, you missed my math error on the other end... should be able to get ten or more laps, not four.

200k x 10 = 2 Million. Now, I'll go and edit the original if I can.
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# 16
10-16-2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by staxed85 View Post
My Dilithium is reserved for fleet donations, so I don't use it to make EC with. I prefer to make my EC with EC, hence the reason I'm looking into keys, because it might be riskier, but it's certainly a lot more return on the EC if it works out. DOffs are nice, but I prefer larger returns with less effort...but DOffs will work in the mean time while I figure out the key market a bit

And yeah, I'd love more market slots as well.
Oh, and that's perfectly reasonable. I've been contributing to my fleet via credits, not Dilithium!
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Ensign
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# 17
10-16-2012, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamspider View Post
Yeah, you missed my math error on the other end... should be able to get ten or more laps, not four.

200k x 10 = 2 Million. Now, I'll go and edit the original if I can.
meh, math is over-rated anyway
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# 18
10-17-2012, 08:36 PM
One thing I feel I should mention: Take great care when undercutting the market. I've seen this in numerous free-market games (and been the cause in a few), where someone would undercut the market, and then someone would undercut him, etc., until the market had crashed to the point of worthlessness.

Most people do this, I think; my hope is to perhaps stem this tide a little amongst the more knowledgeable members, so to keep prices in line and keep our EC markets going.
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# 19
10-17-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by enkemen View Post
One thing I feel I should mention: Take great care when undercutting the market. I've seen this in numerous free-market games (and been the cause in a few), where someone would undercut the market, and then someone would undercut him, etc., until the market had crashed to the point of worthlessness.

Most people do this, I think; my hope is to perhaps stem this tide a little amongst the more knowledgeable members, so to keep prices in line and keep our EC markets going.
I try to not go at the bottom-bottom-bottom. Way I see it, the cheapest stuff will sell fast anyways, so if I price above them, but below many others, I'll get my sale.

Personally, I liked COH's blind consignment system, where the lowest asking price got the highest bid. Not sure if it was the best system, but the simple fact I could effectively "place an order" was nice.
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# 20
10-18-2012, 02:07 AM
The real, unique, secret, to be rich: don't tell anyone if you have reliable sources of income making you swimming in unending loads of cash. Keep your sweet spot for yourself.

The tricks OP mentionned are for lowbies. It won't make you 'rich', you might be able to buy a lockbox ship every once in a while, that's it. I have several niches I'll never reveal. And that makes me insanely "rich", since I own every single lockbox ship (except the bug I don't want) + 500M in investments or cash.

Of course that's just virtual cash and no one should care about it but that's a good part of my fun.
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