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# 1 Niagara Class - What role?
10-11-2012, 05:22 PM
This one to me could be another Tactical role type. Then again it could be used in another role?

This is another I would love to see on STO.
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# 2
10-11-2012, 05:33 PM
mm id say more of an engineering role , seeing as its whats loosely termed as a dreadnought
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# 3
10-11-2012, 05:58 PM
The Memory Beta article calls it a "fast cruiser". So maybe a cruiser with a tactical edge, kind of like the Assault Cruiser. And it should have a good turn rate.
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# 4
10-11-2012, 07:36 PM
Cruiser, with a damn good turning radius. I am all for the Niagara, I love that ship.

Type : Fast Cruiser

Unit Run : USS Niagara - Active
NCC 59804 USS Princeton - Destroyed
NCC 284731 USS Wellington - Active
plus 141 others built in total. 52 have been lost in all.

Commissioned : 2336 - 2360, class remains in service

Dimensions : Length : 443 m3
Beam : 260 m
Height : 130 m
Decks : 22

Mass : 2,950,000 metric tons
Crew : 520

Armament : 6 x Type VIII phaser arrays, total output 22,500 TeraWatts
2 x Standard photon torpedo tube with 80 rounds

Defence Systems : Standard shield system, total capacity 1,687,500 TeraJoules

Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 0.4 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds

(TNG scale) : Normal Cruise : 7
Maximum Cruise : 9
Maximum Rated : 9.4 for 12 hours.

Refit Cycle : Minor : 1 year
Standard : 1 years
Major : 25 years

Notes : Starfleet has always preferred to design Starships with a two nacelle configuration, it being long recognized that this is the ideal layout for optimal warp field efficiency.However, efficiency is not always the deciding factor and over the last few centuries vessels have been produced with one, three or even four nacelles. The Niagara class belongs to the three nacelle family; this means that the class has a small decrease in efficiency compared to the likes of the Galaxy class, but it does confer certain advantages. Like the Rigel class, the Niagara is able to travel on the upper nacelle pair whilst resting the Lower nacelle, or vice versa. This confers both higher cruise speed or longer component life on the engines, as well as enhancing manoeuvrability.

The Niagara design was fielded shortly after the Ambassador class, and originally showed a high degree of commonality with that class. Then Engineering hull and Nacelles were closely based on those of the Ambassador, and the ship is fitted with phaser arrays and a pair of photon torpedo tubes which, combined with its speed and agility, make it a formidable opponent in battle. The Primary Hull shows elements of the Ambassador design, but is also clearly a forerunner of the later Galaxy/Nebula/New Orleans family. Like all Starfleet ships its role is primarily one of peaceful exploration and diplomacy, and the Niagara has served well in these arenas. And as such is capable of handling multi-planetary conferences involving several high level diplomats and their staffs. In the scientific arena the ships high average speed allows it to cover greater areas than would be normal for a ship of this size, while the sensor fit on commissioning was of a generally more advanced type than that of the Ambassadors.

In the mid 2360's the Niagara's, together with their smaller cousins the Freedom class, where refitted with Galaxy class nacelles in order to enhance their acceleration and turning ability, important to a ship which is more biased toward combat than most Starfleet ships.

Class production began in early 2336 and was completed after a thirteen year run which put one hundred and nine ships into the fleet. The Niagara-class saw combat along with other classes of vessel during a war with the Cardassian Union, starting in 2347 continues to the present day. Several Niagara class ships fought at Wolf 359, including the USS Princeton. The USS Wellington received a computer upgrade from the Binars, one of the first Starfleet ships to undergo this procedure the same ship was later involved in the incident at Garon II in which Ensign Ro Laren was held responsible for the deaths of eight people. The ships have served with some distinction during the Dominion war, though they have suffered heavily with twenty three ships destroyed so far.
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# 5
10-12-2012, 12:55 AM
A costume for the Ambassador class.
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# 6
10-12-2012, 05:35 AM
Originally Posted by psycoticvulcan View Post
The Memory Beta article calls it a "fast cruiser". So maybe a cruiser with a tactical edge, kind of like the Assault Cruiser. And it should have a good turn rate.
I think this would be fitting for it.
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# 7
10-12-2012, 09:12 AM
I don't like the idea of the Niagara simply being a costume, or a configuration, however; this wouldn't stop cryptic from offering the Niagara as a variation despite the fact that the ships are different in sizes. While yes, the Ambassador and Niagara are both 'cruisers,' there is a bit of a difference.

Type : Enhanced scientific/diplomatic explorer

Unit Run : NCC 26849 USS Adelphi - Active
NCC 10521 USS Ambassador - Active
NCC 1701-C USS Enterprise - Destroyed
NCC 26517 USS Excalibur - Active
NCC 265134 USS Exeter - Active
NCC 266324 USS Gandhi - Active
NCC105324 USS Horatio - Destroyed
NCC 26198 USS Valdemar - Active
NCC 26510 USS Yamaguchi - Destroyed
NCC 26136 USS Zhukov - Active
plus 48 others built in total. 27 have been lost in all.

Commissioned : 2330 - 2357, class remains in service

Dimensions : Length : 526 m11
Beam : 320 m12
Height : 125 m12
Decks : 36

Mass : 2,350,000 metric tons
Crew : 550

Armament : 10 x Type IX phaser arrays, total output 30,000 TeraWatts
2 x Type 1 burst fire photon torpedo tube with 250 rounds

Defence Systems : Standard shield system, total capacity 2,025,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 7 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field

Warp Speeds
(TNG scale) : Normal Cruise : 6
Maximum Cruise : 8.8
Maximum Rated : 9.2 for 12 hours.

Notes: Now an important footnote in the lineage of many a starship, the Ambassador Class is no longer the backbone of Starfleet's exploration nor defensive arms. Once the pride of the fleet and considered, at the time, to be the pinnacle of starship development, technology developed for the Ambassador class has exploded into common usage among other classes of starships, while the grand spaceframe has slipped from active production and is slowly being replaced by newer designs, it still remains a notable class of vessel that continues to serve with distinction.

The Ambassador Class starship was a large departure from current trends in ship design when it was conceived. Nearly twice as large as the current mainstay, the Excelsior Class starship, the Ambassador class would change the face of Starfleet and influence ship design for decades to come. Initial design concepts were developed and toyed with at the newly formed Advanced Starship Design Bureau, Mars in 2249; some of the first concept models and drawings are still on display at the ASDB Museum. However, given the scale of the craft, the concept would remain just that until 2292, when a dramatic shift in Galactic Politics occurred. A shift that would effect the Federation, the Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire well into the next century.

In early 2290, a marked increase of hostilities along the Klingon and Federation border occurred. This disturbing trend reached a peak in 2291 when the USS Oberon (NCC 4998) was forced to withdraw from an engagement against 2 B'rel Class Birds of Prey. According to published reports, Captain Oded Hammlin believed the vessel to be an arms smuggling corvette enroute from Andor to Klingon Space, and stopped the vessel before entering the neutral zone. 2 B'Rel Class Birds of Prey intercepted the Oberon and threatened to defend the corvette, accusing the Oberon of piracy. When the Oberon refused to withdraw, the B'Rel vessels engaged and disabled the Oberon while taking minimal damage. The Klingon Council quickly learned of their new vessels clear advantages against the backbone of the Federation and became increasingly daring in their action in and around the Neutral Zone. Up until the Ambassador class was launched, several more incidents of Excelsior class starships being forced to withdraw from tense confrontations due to being outgunned and out shielded by the newer B?rel class Birds of Prey occurred. The withdrawals illustrated just how dated and stagnant the United Federations of Planets Starfleet had become. Immediately, the design teams at Utopia Planitia quickly addressed this situation and, blowing the dust off of their concept models, quickly began work on the Ambassador Class Starship. Official sanctioning by Starfleet occurred in 2311 after the Tomed incident and funding and resources were allocated for the development of a new Defense Cruiser.

The Ambassador project would prove to set a new standard in starship design for the Federation, giving Starfleet a starship that was better armed, better equipped and more diversely equipped than any other starship ever before. The design brief for the Ambassador class starship called for a heavily armed Battlecruiser which could also serve the non-combat roles of heavy transport and deep space exploration. The resulting design exceeded expectations and the Ambassador class was quickly put into service.

Several design aspects of the Ambassador class made the space frame unique and were carried over into future designs. Among these was the increased internal cargo, crew and fuel capacity combined with an increased lift capability that gave the Ambassador class not only great size, but an endurance that rivaled the Excelsior Class and crew amenities allowing for much longer on station and patrol times, meaning more Ambassador class starships could remain on patrol longer and with less crew fatigue. Some of the last Ambassador class starships also had thick duranium armor, the precursor to the Defiant Class ablative armor, added to protect the vulnerable areas of the ship. Finally, the development of Phaser Array, which replaced the traditional Phaser Turret found on previous hull types such as the Excelsior and Miranda class hulls, were made standard for the Ambassador class. The arrays allowed for quicker recharge times and the ability to fire at multiple targets out of one array, rather than targeting turrets individually.

So successful were the Ambassador Class vessels, that the production team began looking at designing an improved Ambassador Class vessel. While shaving nearly 15 meters of length, resulting in a much smaller cargo hauling capability, the team was able to make the already hearty Ambassador Class more nimble in combat situations. The addition of 4 more phaser arrays also gave the class more bite. Further improvements in shielding, sensor, and computer technology would be implemented in the Ambassador-Refit design, but these advancements would not be enough to warrant a further production contract beyond the initial 1000 starships ordered by Starfleet. While the final 150 Ambassador Class vessels were of the Refit variety, the improvements and advancements made by the Ambassadors would be short-lived as a new age of Starship production was about to begin.

However, with the advent of the successful Akira and the announcement of the "Grand Redesign of the Fleet" with the Cheyenne, Galaxy and Nebula class starships, production of the Ambassador class slipped markedly. The Nebula Class, the new workhorse of the fleet, could fill the same roles as the Ambassador class, and could do them more efficiently and with greater range. As a result, the Ambassador mission role became more and more limited to the role of border patrol and defensive specialist with fewer and fewer assigned to deep space exploration and diplomatic transport. Continued refits kept the majority of the Ambassador class starships in service, despite the end of their active production run. The currently active starships serve the Federation well, but the recent Borg incursions and war with the Dominion has cut down severely the number of Ambassador class starships that remain in active service. Most of the Ambassador class starships were lost or damaged beyond repair, resulting in the decommissioning of the majority of active Ambassador starships. The current trend in Starship has also phased the Ambassador class out, with less crew intensive starships being the order of the day.
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# 8
10-15-2012, 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by farmallm View Post
This one to me could be another Tactical role type. Then again it could be used in another role?

This is another I would love to see on STO.
I see this ship as a hybrid-type ship, something along the lines of the new Chimira Class. If nothing else, it would certainly be fun to fly.
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# 9
10-16-2012, 10:24 AM
One of the worst designs in Star Trek history imo. But for the sake of hope that all canon ships make it into the game, I think it should be a slightly tankier and slower version of whatever the ambassador ends up being.
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# 10
10-16-2012, 11:00 AM
misskorya, is there any particular reason you repeatedly post stuff from
Because even that site itself states in its own colour key that everything in those articles that is in white letters is entirely imaginary and sometimes even contradics canon.

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