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# 11
10-14-2012, 10:12 AM
Personally, from a business standpoint, Inwould not fault Cryptic from this move, if it were to indeed happen. Removing the Officer Reports altogether in favor of a scalable dilithium reward for each individual Foundry mission would be fine for me. Many in the game take advantage of the "quickies." One thing I would like to see is making the patrol missions daily with a dilithium reward for each block completed. Either that or create a "Daily Patrol Assignment" given out by Patrol Officer. When you contact him, he will give you a patrol assignment of a random sector block. Today you may have to patrol Sirius Sector Block and tomorrow, it may be Zeta Adromadae.
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# 12
10-14-2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by levi3 View Post

Now there will be people say "but what about the dilth market, it will get out of wack"

No it won't - from watching it for 9 months and watching the stock market for 20 years - I can say will strong confidence that i believe they are already in there keeping the price consant and stable by addind dilth when need be. Over the last few weeks the dilth market has not budged 1 or 2 points a day and there have been hundreds of thousand of dilth on both the buy and the ask. The last lock box only moved it out of it's fixed range for a very short time.

It is clear that it is being manipulate - my bet is on Cryptic and not some players because the movement up or down is almost non existant. And just like the Federal reserve printing money - Crptic is the only ones that can just "print" dilth out of nothing.
the crytic control the market seems to pop up no matter what the cost is. when it was in the 300's people said the same thing.

cryptic would ideally want the price to be higher than it is. it is super cheap to trade for zen at the moment and the price is so low that its not ideal to sell zen to get dilithium for starbases. so they are losing on both counts. if they were controlling it they would want the price to be much higher than it is now. at least 250.

the prices have come way down because of the constant use of starbase requirements, yet no one wants to really sell their dilithium for less than what is going for so its just hanging around this area.

why dont you wait until something changes, if it changes and how it changes first?

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# 13
10-14-2012, 10:18 AM
I have about 3k zen on my account, a lifetime sub, and... I have no clue about what I could do with such an amount of points.

- I'm opposed to buy keys. I don't play the casino IRL and i don't want to become an addict.
- I don't see the point of developping the starbase. The lockboxes and exchanges have better items to offer- for cheaper.
- I don't see the point of buying c-store ships anymore, since the lockbox ones are vastly superior. Whatever ship they release the lockbox ones would still be able to kick it badly in the ass.
- I already own a galor, a recluse, an orb, both temporal ships, shuttles, stuff, more stuff... I'm a bit unimpressed by any new shiny they could release.

Soooo, I don't need dilithium anymore. I've bought all these ships from the exchange, and since I own among the most blatant pay to win, cheated, cheater ships, I think the lifetime is the last piece of cash they'll ever get from me. Zens have no value for me anymore since what you can buy with them has no value to me. Even if they release even more OP pay to win ships in the store I think i'll sit there with what I have since it's an unending process.
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# 14
10-14-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
Don't know the exact post (too lazy to look it up) but (new) Foundry mission rewards are potentially going to be linked to the average length of time it takes to play the mission (same as Neverwinter) - when the Foundry rewards get added, 'Investigate Officer Reports' goes bye-bye.
In fairness, if they nerf what is essentially to I suspect 95-99% of the playerbase, an exploit of the system I don't mind.


Well I do, I mean I use the quickies to grab dilithium, and it'd be a shame to lose that - but I can totally understand it.

Now if they nerf the amount of Dilithium from STFs, Mirror Events, PVP etc etc, then I'd encourage people to be upset.
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# 15
10-14-2012, 10:28 AM
It's gonna hurt starbases though if they don't introduce another (simple) method of gaining Fleet Marks - I do the clickies, not just for the Dilithium but because quite frankly, the Fleet missions are dreadful and the payouts pathetic.
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# 16
10-14-2012, 10:34 AM
I'd argue that anyone bothering with the Foundry stuff is doing it strictly for the dil reward. Depending on how many people that is it could add upto a hell of a lot of lost dil out of the econemy. People forget, every bit of dil on the exchange has been earned by somone somwhere.

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I have about 3k zen on my account, a lifetime sub, and... I have no clue about what I could do with such an amount of points.

- I'm opposed to buy keys. I don't play the casino IRL and i don't want to become an addict.
- I don't see the point of developping the starbase. The lockboxes and exchanges have better items to offer- for cheaper.
- I don't see the point of buying c-store ships anymore, since the lockbox ones are vastly superior. Whatever ship they release the lockbox ones would still be able to kick it badly in the ass.
- I already own a galor, a recluse, an orb, both temporal ships, shuttles, stuff, more stuff... I'm a bit unimpressed by any new shiny they could release.
Lockbox ships are infiriour to fleet ships. Of course ATM thats not a major balance concern, but it may become one as time goes on.
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# 17
10-14-2012, 10:36 AM
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Lockbox ships are infiriour to fleet ships. Of course ATM thats not a major balance concern, but it may become one as time goes on.
Really? I was under the impression that the Bug was still more desirable that the Fleet Defiant because of it's Boff layout..?
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# 18
10-14-2012, 10:51 AM
What I was hearing in the "chatter" as I like to call it is that this "nerf" or change to the officer daily is to put an end to people with multiple alts just running the thing for 3 or 4 min per alt and collecting the dilth. Apparently with the massive requirements of Starbases the amount of Alts has skyrocketed.

The intent was to get people to buy dilth - wilth Zen that was purchased with real money and not get as much dilth for starbases through grinding. The coming changes to nerf the dilth grinding - and I just don't think they have the Officer reports in mind - is to force people to open their wallet and buy more zen.

But like I said these changes won't happen until after the LTS sale is over and a lot more people are locked in - so there is still some time to collect dilth.
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# 19
10-14-2012, 10:52 AM
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Lockbox ships are infiriour to fleet ships. Of course ATM thats not a major balance concern, but it may become one as time goes on.
Oh no they aren't, especially with the special consoles. Better stats, more universals, special goodies, what else do you need?


Back on topic:

Whatever the 'fix' is, there will be a workaround. No one should worry about that. It might not be as easy as it is currenty but I can already imagine some tricks to overcome this issue. It might be even worse, considering the fact that a stf lasts 20 minutes, if they want the foundry content to be 'competitive'. And it has to be competitive if they want to give an incentive to authors (every single one of them, including myself, is creating missions for prestige to some extent, so we need people to play the missions).
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# 20
10-14-2012, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
Oh no they aren't, especially with the special consoles. Better stats, more universals, special goodies, what else do you need?


Back on topic:

Whatever the 'fix' is, there will be a workaround. No one should worry about that. It might not be as easy as it is currenty but I can already imagine some tricks to overcome this issue. It might be even worse, considering the fact that a stf lasts 20 minutes, if they want the foundry content to be 'competitive'. And it has to be competitive if they want to give an incentive to authors (every single one of them, including myself, is creating missions for prestige to some extent, so we need people to play the missions).
I think 90% of the players probably do the daily officer reports as a "quckie" - So a lot of players will be affected by this change.

And Like I said do they have any other dilth nerfs in mind as well?
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