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# 231
10-22-2012, 05:36 PM
Ok.... so you dislike FaW1. Understandable. But... the point is that there are options.
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# 232
10-22-2012, 05:45 PM
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Ok.... so you dislike FaW1. Understandable. But... the point is that there are options.
No, the pont xantris made, is that he was looking for "viable tac skills at the ensign level;" not just the mere existence of options. :)

Anyway, we're getting side-tracked here.
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# 233
10-22-2012, 06:10 PM
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No, the pont xantris made, is that he was looking for "viable tac skills at the ensign level;" not just the mere existence of options.

Anyway, we're getting side-tracked here.
Soo... you feel that Torpedo Spread 1 and High yield Torpedo 1 aren't viable skills?
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# 234
10-22-2012, 06:28 PM
Some people just wanna run cannons... as much as I find that a bad idea. In pve you'd want 3 cannons and a torp, in pvp thats 2 cannons, a dbb and a torp for the alpha strike.
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# 235
10-23-2012, 08:59 PM
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Glad to see we're finally back to just calling it a nerf again.
Its not a swear word... A bunch of stuff in this game needs to be NERFED... thats right I have no issues saying it.

A bunch of stuff I like to use needs to be NERFED.

Again simply saying thats a NERF... doesn't make something wrong.

Using the word NERF doesn't auto win you an argument. If something needs to have its effective values reduced cause frankly boosting EVERY thing in the game to its level would be stupid yes thats what you do. I don't think there are many players that don't accept that.

Yes the borg set is getting nerfed.
Yes tac team will be getting nerfed.
Yes BFI doffs will be getting nerfed.

Live with it... adjust or move on.
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# 236
10-23-2012, 09:26 PM
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If something needs to have its effective values reduced cause frankly boosting EVERY thing in the game to its level would be stupid yes thats what you do.
If only I had that kind of power! :P

Also, not entirely following your grammar in the above sentence, but if you meant I would rather boost the lackluster bonusses of some of the other sets a bit, yes, I would.

And even Borticus was quick to disavow any certainty regarding the fate of Tactial Team (although, truth be told, I think we both kinda know he was merely doing a meaningless pro forma diplomatic dance there). So you'll probably get your TT nerf.
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# 237
10-23-2012, 09:28 PM
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Wrong, escorts are so tanky that cruisers don't need to protect them in 99% of all cases. Which leads the cruisers to not learning how to since there is no need for them to.
And scorts had to learn ways to be Tanky that cryptic didn't consider because cruisers never learned their role. I only used the 2 piece. Bfi doffs and flow caps skill were always the problem, not the Borg shield regen. Cryptic missed the mark again but I am not surprised.
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# 238
10-23-2012, 09:34 PM
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If only I had that kind of power!

Also, not entirely following your grammar in the above sentence, but if you meant I would rather boost the lackluster bonusses of some of the other sets a bit, yes, I would.

And even Borticus was quick to disavow any certainty regarding the fate of Tactial Team (although, truth be told, I think we both kinda know he was merely doing a meaningless pro forma diplomatic dance there). So you'll probably get your TT nerf.
No I was not saying other things should be boosted.

Honestly every other set in the game is fine pretty much exactly as they are.

There is only one set that is out to lunch... the borg retro... and it is getting a small change we'll see if thats all it needed.

No it makes no sense at all imo to change 20 sets upward... instead of one downward.

I think we all can admit every other set is pretty much equal... there is only one set that is not equal. No making 10+ changes to balance a set that can be balanced with ONE change seems like a real waste of time.

Yes tac team needs a nerf so your right we will see it cause ... frankly the current Cryptic devs are far less stupid the previous ones.
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# 239
10-23-2012, 09:56 PM
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There is only one set that is out to lunch... the borg retro... and it is getting a small change we'll see if thats all it needed.
And you and Borticus will continue to watch set-usage like a hawk, and not rest until every set is about equal, right?

And the sad part is: you probably think your talk about 'equality' makes you very reasonable. You're not. Without there being a clear 'best' in the game, there's no longer any good reason to strive for anything else beyond what sets you already have; no need to pug thru hours of Elite STFs, cuz, courtesy of husanakx, why get just another set that's, meh, just about equal to the one you already have? Way to kill the game!
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# 240
10-23-2012, 10:17 PM
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And scorts had to learn ways to be Tanky that cryptic didn't consider because cruisers never learned their role.
^^ This.

Personally, I *love* it when people find often very creative ways to tank. Some of these methods have become common practice now, so it's easy to forget what ingenuity fueled the original setups.

And it's really sad some devs watch what people come up with, only so they can nerf it (and no, I'm not even talking about the Borg set). And for me, that's a sure game-killer. It's like some dev looking over your shoulder, saying: "I love it how you all get creative and find ways to tank we never even anticipated! But should your setup ever get successful, we will nerf you!" Because then I'm like: Why even bother?

N.B. Out of curiosity, what's the alleged issue with flow capacitors? I have 9 points in them. And other than siphon energy working better, and my Assimilated Tractor Beam draining a bit more, this is the first time I've heard someone refer to flow capacitors being some sort of problem.
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