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# 11
10-17-2012, 04:28 AM
I have them fitted to my Galaxy-X; find them quite useful on that ship to be honest.
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# 12
10-17-2012, 08:26 AM
Gotta love the visuals !
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# 13
10-17-2012, 08:43 AM
The only "boost" the quad cannons need is the ability to equip more than one of them. Even if that ability were confined to fleet escorts, it would increase it's value massively.
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# 14
10-17-2012, 08:46 AM
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Procs are calculated by firing cylces and not per single volleys. So QC and "normal" DCs or DHC all have the same chance to proc.
Not all procs - DEM, and more significantly Tetryon Glider are added per pulse (though they're not exactly procs to be fair).
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# 15
10-17-2012, 01:04 PM
better if you could at least equip two.
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# 16
10-17-2012, 02:36 PM
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Quad Cannons need a major DPS increase (or SOMETHING) to be worth the expense. Am I wrong?
Imho, no. The increase in damage is laughable. A bit more would be welcome.

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There's another important point: by paying a premium, anyone can have the QPC immediately for any character that is high enough level to spawn the Sao Paolo (i.e. over 30th level and on the Fed faction). The AFDHC, by contrast, is limited to Vice Admirals and critically requires you to be:

A) a member of a fleet, and
B) have access to gear provisions and a tier 2 fabber that you presumably participated in earning.

In other words, the discounted cost of the AFDHC is also related to the fact that the devs are incentivizing certain behaviors (fleet membership).
A) Not that hard
B) Again, not that hard

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Finally, there's the matter of infinity gear. The AFDHC is Mk XII gear and there is not reasonable expectation that it will ever improve in stats unless there is a radical change in the way the weapons are balanced across the board. By contrast, the QPC is infinity gear, which means that if/when (probably when based on dev comments) Admiral rank and Tier 6 comes out, the QPC is likely to advance to Mk XIV just as it (belatedly) advanced to Mk XII in Season 6.
I certainly hope so!

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Summary

You are correct that, compared side-to-side with the QPC and assuming the QPC is the sole purpose of buying the Sao Paolo, the AFDHC is a better value.

However, the Z1500 price of the QPC includes a number of other items. Some players will want these things and this will change their value judgment about the QPC; in fact, market research related to FTP in Korea revealed that cosmetic items were the main driver of FTP microtransactions.

TL;DR

You're comparing apples and oranges
I think you are wrong here. They are both cannons and the AFDHC is fairly easy to get compared with the grinding you need to do to get Z1500 for the PQC. I assume grinding and not buying z-points because you also grind for the AFDHC.

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I don't believe they do need a boost, they scale as you level and I believe as they drain engine power they therefore get a power based damage boost for higher engine power, that and th extra 2 hits per volley gives any tac buffs even more power
Not according to this: http://www.stowiki.org/Phaser_Quad_Cannons

Also it states (and I can't verify this) that the PQC is somewhat like a MK X weapon. Not a MK XI or even MK XII. So scaling is limited.
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# 17
10-17-2012, 05:21 PM
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Not according to this: http://www.stowiki.org/Phaser_Quad_Cannons

Also it states (and I can't verify this) that the PQC is somewhat like a MK X weapon. Not a MK XI or even MK XII. So scaling is limited.
The commentary on the website about the scalability of the Quad Cannon hasn't been updated since the Season 6 patch that brought the end-stage damage scale in line with other Vice Admiral level weapons.

Incidentally, I agree with you that the fleet-related entry barriers for the AFDHC are not all that difficult to overcome. My point wasn't that the devs thought it would be hard to get, but rather that they made it fairly easy and affordable to get, if you engage in the behavior they want you to (participating in fleet content).
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# 18
10-17-2012, 05:40 PM
Question about Quad cannons.

On the Wiki it says any ship can equip them if they could normally equip Cannons. So Could I, for example, Get Quad disruptors and stick them on my Varnaus?

I only ask as a mate tried it out on one of his ships with the Quad Phasers and says the game said No.
Rather check before buying and all that.

Thanks.
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# 19
10-17-2012, 06:43 PM
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Question about Quad cannons.

On the Wiki it says any ship can equip them if they could normally equip Cannons. So Could I, for example, Get Quad disruptors and stick them on my Varnaus?

I only ask as a mate tried it out on one of his ships with the Quad Phasers and says the game said No.
Rather check before buying and all that.

Thanks.
I believe for the KDF you need to get their Disruptor equivalent: http://www.stowiki.org/Disruptor_Quad_Cannons
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# 20
10-17-2012, 07:07 PM
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Question about Quad cannons.

On the Wiki it says any ship can equip them if they could normally equip Cannons. So Could I, for example, Get Quad disruptors and stick them on my Varnaus?

I only ask as a mate tried it out on one of his ships with the Quad Phasers and says the game said No.
Rather check before buying and all that.

Thanks.
Stuff like the wiki is a little bit screwy, when it says a ship can equip cannons it means dual/dual heavy cannons. All ships can equip single cannons.

I don't think the Varanus can equip duals so no I would say the answer is no.
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