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# 51
10-17-2012, 05:43 AM
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Meh. It was bound to happen.

and don't get comfortable, more changes are incomming........
Exactly what roach just said.

Oh no, we're going to have to adjust our tactics, and builds.
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# 52
10-17-2012, 05:47 AM
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Ok, before season 7 the Borg set has 4 pieces:

2 pieces give you a bonus chance for hull repair which will give you up to 30% of your hull back.

3 pieces gives you a chance for a shield heal bonus which happens when your shields go below 20%.

4 pieces gives you a lame tractor beam.

Up until now, everyone has been using the borg engines, deflector, assimilated module (for the hull and shield healing set bonuses) and the MACO shield (which is the best shield in the game).

After season 7, they're removing the assimilated module as a set piece and making it a part of its own set. So, to get the 3rd set bonus shield heal I described above, you have to use the lame Borg shield.

Everyone is now QQing because of this.

I do not know QQing, but thank you for explaining. Is there a link to a dev post where this is talked about?
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# 53
10-17-2012, 05:47 AM
I'm mad again, no words, no words... i can't even speak or type right now, get back to me later after I punch a hole in my wall.
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# 54
10-17-2012, 05:49 AM
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Especially in light of the fact that, if escorts do become somewhat more squishy because of this change, the need to actively resist the heal-cruiser's pressure DPS may "return". Then you really start up the PvP chess match
Any incidental benefits to PvP are entirely by accident though (but I hope you're right) - this is about padding out the reputation system with reworked old content across multiple levels (XI/XII). I've a sneaking suspicion that you may not be able to choose whether you want that MkXI Borg cutting beam or not - you may have to grind it anyway to say unlock the Borg Mk XII Engines later on...

Just speculation, but yeah - Cryptic really are that dumb.
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# 55
10-17-2012, 05:53 AM
New catch phrase:

"Cryptic, ruining Star Trek Online one season at a time..."
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# 56
10-17-2012, 05:56 AM
It sucks that they are nerfing, I can live with it...its not the end of the world. But lets hope this will lead to re-evaluation and perhaps buffing of M.A.C.O. , Omega, and KHG sets.
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# 57
10-17-2012, 06:02 AM
It's about time.

Still it doesn't go far enough, the 2-piece Borg set will still be a must have set for most, simply for the hull heals. What needs to be done is to rip out the borg hull heal proc, or make it so that it's part of the 3-piece set, with the tractor beam becoming part of the two piece.

As it is though, it's still overpowered. The set was a mistake from it's introduction and needs to be brought in line with the other sets.

So basically, it's a good start but doesn't go far enough.

As for those raging, try to see it from a balance perspective. It is overpowered, so overpowered in fact that even after the first nerf it's STILL overpowered. I use it myself and I'll be more then happy to see it get nerfed further, because that's exactly what it needs.
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# 58
10-17-2012, 06:04 AM
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It's about time.

Still it doesn't go far enough, the 2-piece Borg set will still be a must have set for most, simply for the hull heals. What needs to be done is to rip out the borg hull heal proc, or make it so that it's part of the 3-piece set, with the tractor beam becoming part of the two piece.

As it is though, it's still overpowered. The set was a mistake from it's introduction and needs to be brought in line with the other sets.
Agreed, nerf it good baby
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# 59
10-17-2012, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
It was the best science set for graviton generators, but now if we want any set bonus, we'll have to use the terrible borg shield or the not up to par maco space set (the 2 piece power is stupid and utterly useless). So I'll have to loose a lot of resilience or sci power efficiency.

I understand the need to nerf tanking, especially for escorts, but once again it looks like a science nerf, even if it wasn't the original purpose. I do hope that the new omega adapted borg tech won't force us to make a lot of sacrifices and have goot other set parts, because I really need the console on my science ship.

I'm not opposed to change but I hope the new omega adapted borg tech isn't a cheap set with terrible set parts, because I'll feat I have to loose the GREAT borg deflector with +5 to aux. That's already a huge nerf for scis.
I don't see it as about that.

The Borg set is supposed to be a starter set that MACO/Omega Force replace.

Making it the only 4 piece set in the game made it something too tempting, especially when the console required no STFs.

I'll still use the console because it's a way to pump damage out of a non-Tac console. But that Mk XII MACO engine can come back out of the bank.
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# 60
10-17-2012, 06:10 AM
Seriously?? You guys really think it's that OP? I haven't used the Borg set in over a year now - after the last run of nerfs it just seemed really - meh. I hardly ever even use the console now.

It's bland, it's ugly (the ship mods and the VFX are hideous) and the only people that use it religiously are min/maxxers who'll stick with a given setup irrespectively if they think they get 0.5% more mojo from it.

Screwing around with the Borg set is just wasted development effort in my opinion. They're monkeying around with existing content only to repackage it and present it as 'new' content.

And to put it another way - all of the development effort that's gone into futzing with the Borg set could've resulted in a) a completely new set or b) a revamp of Aegis (which could really use some love) - unfortunately the Aegis set doesn't fit neatly into their new Omega grind so they've left it to rot.
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