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# 111
10-22-2012, 08:50 AM
Small update: taken from this post.

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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
Honestly, does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature II in PvP? My impression is that the stealth value is too low to bring to bear against enemy players.

The cloak will drop for 3 seconds each time a firing cycle starts. Most players set all energy weapons to fire simultaneously, and so are unlikely to find any benefit from this ability other than the passive +Defense field.

I'll ask another question:

Does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature of any tier to any beneficial effect in PvE?

MES is largely regarded as a really bad choice for any ship, in any of the game's environments (PvP & PvE).

If this is the case, why is this the 3rd tier power for the KHG set?


We're back to part of why the Borg 3 piece + X Shield was so popular - yes it was a strong combination but the other combinations are poor value.

That being said hypothetically speaking if there were no changes made to any of the STF sets for S7 launch I would use 2 Borg Pieces and MACO or KHG shield for just the hull heal.

Even if they get some changes I might end up going that route anyway.




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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
We're trying to get the sets up for "free" on Tribble soon. Be sure to keep an eye on patch notes if you'd like to try these out before Season 7 comes to Holodeck.

This is good news, I'll keep my eyes peeled.




I'd also like to add something new to the thread.

As I'm working half of my builds out to drop the Borg set I spent the weekend using Omega MK XII full set on one of my escorts.

Omega Shield Proc:

I've never liked this proc.

Both MACO and KHG shield procs improve your survivability by a good bit.

This proc grants a bit of speed +turn % when being shot, but only 50% of the time.

This either comes at a time when you are standing still shooting a target or moving around for a sudden burst of random speed that you can't control.


I'd really like for something to replace this proc while keeping it thematically similar to what it does now.

One thing that could be really useful is changing it so that when receiving all damage, a 50% chance of reducing rech on Evasive Maneuvers by X% or X seconds (Sort of like the Evasive DOFFs).

This would still make it a maneuverability focused power but would allow the player better control over when they take advantage of it.


That's the complicated one, an easier thing would be some sort of defese/damage avoidance benefit that goes beyond what the small speed boost gives you.


At the moment I see the following combinations becoming the new defacto layouts:

MACO or KHG shield + 2 piece Borg
MACO or KHG shield + 2 piece Omega


I'm sure some people will use 3 piece MACO for whatever reason they come up with, but some people also inexplicably use powers like Boarding Party 3, Aceton Beam and MES 1 or 2.


Last edited by ussultimatum; 10-22-2012 at 09:10 AM.
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# 112
10-22-2012, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by falloutx23 View Post
maybe I'm missing something, but why do you NEED +torp damage because your a kdf tac flying a raptor?
Because the boff layout is designed for a cannon + torp build to maximize dps.
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# 113
10-22-2012, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
Because the boff layout is designed for a cannon + torp build to maximize dps.
What's your Boff layout, and why couldn't you use BO?
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# 114
10-22-2012, 01:43 PM
So I guess no reman/romulan stf ground sets then well drats here I was hoping for new content not just give me what feds/kdf have though I do miss my khg pulsewave when playing as my rebellious fed chracter.
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# 115
10-22-2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kapla1755 View Post
So I guess no reman/romulan stf ground sets then well drats here I was hoping for new content not just give me what feds/kdf have though I do miss my khg pulsewave when playing as my rebellious fed chracter.
But you want to grind T5 Rom Rep to get your Romulan Entourage, no? Can't show up to the party without your entourage!
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# 116
10-22-2012, 02:10 PM
One question: will the Reman set get a buff to be on par with the omega fleet ones or will it remain as it is (= clearly not an endgame set)? Since the purple Mk XII one can be unlocked at T5, it could be interesting to make it an endgame set too.
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# 117
10-22-2012, 03:06 PM
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But you want to grind T5 Rom Rep to get your Romulan Entourage, no? Can't show up to the party without your entourage!
Got 16 alts so lots of grinding but what else is there to do
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# 118
10-22-2012, 07:32 PM
Just..wait for it..wait for it..

Kung-fu Fighting!

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# 119
10-23-2012, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
MACO:

2-Piece -
* For the time being, we've chosen to not increase the cooldown reduction offered by this bonus. Because it impacts too many different cooldowns, making it larger than 5% can lead to some scaling issues. Instead, we're looking at possibly adding another passive effect alongside it, and would welcome suggestions.
Don't know if this was suggested, but how about increasing the Power Insulator bonus with the 2-piece set? To, say, 30?

And add some Inertial Dampeners in there as well?

5% cool down reduction
30 Power Insulators
30 Inertial Dampeners
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# 120
10-23-2012, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
Small update: taken from this post.




I'll ask another question:

Does anybody ever use Mask Energy Signature of any tier to any beneficial effect in PvE?

MES is largely regarded as a really bad choice for any ship, in any of the game's environments (PvP & PvE).

If this is the case, why is this the 3rd tier power for the KHG set?


We're back to part of why the Borg 3 piece + X Shield was so popular - yes it was a strong combination but the other combinations are poor value.

That being said hypothetically speaking if there were no changes made to any of the STF sets for S7 launch I would use 2 Borg Pieces and MACO or KHG shield for just the hull heal.

Even if they get some changes I might end up going that route anyway.







This is good news, I'll keep my eyes peeled.




I'd also like to add something new to the thread.

As I'm working half of my builds out to drop the Borg set I spent the weekend using Omega MK XII full set on one of my escorts.

Omega Shield Proc:

I've never liked this proc.

Both MACO and KHG shield procs improve your survivability by a good bit.

This proc grants a bit of speed +turn % when being shot, but only 50% of the time.

This either comes at a time when you are standing still shooting a target or moving around for a sudden burst of random speed that you can't control.


I'd really like for something to replace this proc while keeping it thematically similar to what it does now.

One thing that could be really useful is changing it so that when receiving all damage, a 50% chance of reducing rech on Evasive Maneuvers by X% or X seconds (Sort of like the Evasive DOFFs).

This would still make it a maneuverability focused power but would allow the player better control over when they take advantage of it.


That's the complicated one, an easier thing would be some sort of defese/damage avoidance benefit that goes beyond what the small speed boost gives you.


At the moment I see the following combinations becoming the new defacto layouts:

MACO or KHG shield + 2 piece Borg
MACO or KHG shield + 2 piece Omega


I'm sure some people will use 3 piece MACO for whatever reason they come up with, but some people also inexplicably use powers like Boarding Party 3, Aceton Beam and MES 1 or 2.
I use Omega shields specifically for their proc all the time. 50% proc rate is huge, might as well be 100% in PvP. It also increases interia rating btw. Please stop making bad assumptions about what others would or should do.
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