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# 71
10-23-2012, 01:13 PM
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APSD? Syphon Dones?
aye, advanced.

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If you're concerned about that, have a BOFF ready with Tractor Beam Repulsars that you can swap in as needed. Punt the assimilators and drones out of your spawn or area, and then you'll be fine. Chances are, you'll probably kill the assimilators before they owner could create new ones.
...well: no way for a repulsor on an escort, except mvae (or anyone knows another one?). also as stated i pack aoe's on most of my build's. ... but all that doesn't change the experiences i made.

but, nevertheless what about the dome? that alone would make at least me very happy .

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# 72
10-23-2012, 01:21 PM
Any ship can take TBR, MVAE just gets to take a higher rank.

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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
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# 73
10-23-2012, 01:24 PM
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Any ship can take TBR, MVAE just gets to take a higher rank.
... ah, ok ...thx. but you know for me two sci-slots are reserved for transfer shield strenght and polarize hull ...
also i already checked it with t-repulsor, but not seemed to be very effective to me.

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# 74
10-23-2012, 01:25 PM
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aye, advanced.



...well: no way for a repulsor on an escort, except mvae (or anyone knows another one?). also as stated i pack aoe's on most of my build's. ... but all that doesn't change the experiences i made.

but, nevertheless what about the dome? that alone would make at least me very happy .
Doesn't the Armitage class (I'm guessing you're using this class) have a Lt. Engineering skill?

That is all that is needed for it.
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# 75
10-23-2012, 01:27 PM
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... ah, ok ...thx. but you know for me two sci-slots are reserved for transfer shield strenght and polarize hull ...
also i already checked it with t-repulsor, but not seemed to be very effective to me.
You can't really lock yourself into only taking set skills no matter what the circumstances are. PH is a particularly poor choice in FvK.

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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
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# 76
10-23-2012, 01:36 PM
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You can't really lock yourself into only taking set skills no matter what the circumstances are. PH is a particularly poor choice in FvK.
...dunno, but there seem to be enough klinks packing tb to justify ph for me ^^... and surely your right: i can't stand all situations with a fixed build, f.e. for sci-boff-skills. i specced pi at full now, also inertial damp's.
but again:
in my experience matches only take one direction with those two abilities. and i add, in those matches i'm not alone as fed. guess there are enough players who do not run my tactics, and may have a better performance against such things. but at least it almost never matters/changes anything... the rate would be interesting to know.

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# 77
10-23-2012, 10:02 PM
Power Insulators is absolutely great to have but it's not the last word, you don't want to be constantly on the defence either. If I go into FvK I typically expect I'm going to need zone control, ships that can take a beating (fill in the blank cruiser) or tanky escorts like the Fleet Patrol/Saber are a good start. Consider swapping out your Eng consoles for hull resists to minimize your odds of getting critted with shields down. Keep at a distance, crank your aux up high (some Klinks are smart enough to do the same, but if nothing else you can pop a buffed resist when they decloak while you switch back).

CSV is OK but a little tricky to use, torps work great against siphons. Buffed warp plasma murders pets, so does TBR, Grav Well and a lot of others that have already been mentioned.

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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
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# 78
10-24-2012, 12:44 AM
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Doesn't the Armitage class (I'm guessing you're using this class) have a Lt. Engineering skill?

That is all that is needed for it.
i'm owning 15 ships, several of them i use in fvk (also tried different builds). with none of them that made experiences really altered for me .

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Power Insulators is absolutely great to have but it's not the last word, you don't want to be constantly on the defence either. If I go into FvK I typically expect I'm going to need zone control, ships that can take a beating (fill in the blank cruiser) or tanky escorts like the Fleet Patrol/Saber are a good start. Consider swapping out your Eng consoles for hull resists to minimize your odds of getting critted with shields down. Keep at a distance, crank your aux up high (some Klinks are smart enough to do the same, but if nothing else you can pop a buffed resist when they decloak while you switch back).

CSV is OK but a little tricky to use, torps work great against siphons. Buffed warp plasma murders pets, so does TBR, Grav Well and a lot of others that have already been mentioned.
... and i'm already using them. hull resist consoles were swapped out, for just not being effective at all ^^.
you know i did some tests on my own, when started to pvp. now i got builds that just suits fine for most situations (tanky escorts: i got; punching cruisers/sci-ships: yeah, i got... as most as you can make them punch i guess ^^. may i'm wrong with that, but my recluse f.e., or any recluse anyway, is a hell of a beasty tank).
but even with defensive consoles against drains or what, experience has not changed against klinks when those 2 are in the match! klinks win.

so again: beside the fact we obviously not will come to one point, what about a dome of doom? (--> here):i would just be fine with that, cause at least it would make pvp some more player friendly (may also for newbs/noobs, who just run after being vaporized by klinks on the doorstep).
and yes... nowadays i just run when spotting aa's or some apsd and start pet hunting. rounds are almost over then for me ^^...

edit:
borticus just said something on the changes on siphons. sounds good to me, check it out here .

edit2: out of the feedback in this thread i made some changes in my builds and am very satisfied. just wanted to say thx for all your input ... not that it saves me in a c&h with aa's and siphons, but at least i perform better now.

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