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# 31
10-22-2012, 01:23 AM
I find that 2DHC 1DBB 1Qtorp alpha strikes don't exactly work like PVP in PVE. I'd take maybe 10% off in that salvo then plink the tac cube slowly with that stupid DBB and no TS for several minutes. More if I want to line my captain skills up. :/

The only advantage I see is that I can attack Donatra from 10km out more accurately. Otherwise when I'm soloing gates (which I often do... rainbow boats are of now help) the lack of a DHC shows when pitted against the DBB.
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# 32
10-22-2012, 01:53 AM
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By the way I've saw you I'n game doing stfs
A Klingon sail barge I believe you were flying
Stole it from jabba the Hutt and put warp engines on it
Don't insult the Tor'Kaht Battle Cruiser. That ship is a beast and one of the meanest looking bruisers in the game.

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# 33
10-22-2012, 01:57 AM
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On the one hand i agree that tric mines are way over powered and if i had a chunk of dilithium for every time i saw somebody flying around in a PVP not targeting anyone laying a mine and claiming "mad skillage" when they get a kill is irritating. I rank trico mines on par with siphon boats in terms of skill.

But as MK & Mav say, they can be easily avoided/shot down/repulsed or simply blow up via spam.

Do i wish they were less powerful to make PVE even less laughable? Yes. Do i think they need a slight damage nerf for PVP? Maybe. Do i think people need to use counters? Obviously.

FYI to the guy moaning over a 9min optional time remaining - is that unusual for you?
Moaning ? Explain your sarcasm

Yes it was unusual , it was the fastest I've saw it
Done so far , I'm sure you do it much faster solo
Right , the other 4 people just watch

But then again I'm still learning the game compared
To you guys and will never match you uber skillz
Not that I care too either , it seems with Eliteness comes
Inbred rudeness and that isn't me

So I'll keep my Noobness
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# 34
10-22-2012, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by orondis View Post
After my 5th pug match of having my team or the opposing team wiped out by tric users I've rather had enough.

They have become the number one defacto way of killing. It's getting to the point where half the players in a match are using them. Doesn't matter what career the captain is, they're always deadly. It's relly starting to get peoples backs up or in some cases just put them off pvp all together.

It's seriously beginning to ruin the game.

I'm not just talking PvP here, I'm talk PvE as well. They've made everything from Borg elite tactical cubes to the gates, shield or unshielded, total walkovers. I remember someone bragging in my team how his tric mines are taking out whole borg cubes without having fired anything else.

They are a no-skill-required method of playing the game.
Sry mate, but I'm with mai on this one, just because DHC have been kicked from the throne of #1 no-skill-all-kills weapon doesn't mean we should take em out either.
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# 35
10-22-2012, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jellico1 View Post

Your right pvpers specs into defense
So a pver who doesn't need all that defense
Can spec into offense with the skill points the
Pver had to spend simply to survive

The pvper must also use hi accuracy weapons
That do less damage than a pver who can buy
Hi damage hi crit weapons because he doesn't
Need the extra accuracy

Both have the same skill points to spend

I have no idea what is so hard to grasp here

It's simple logic
your simple logic is wrong. i know almost every pvp'r whos out to wreck things will put every point needed into offensive for their build then put points into defensive.

if youre just filling upthe tacitcal tree to fill it up then youre doing it wrong.

youre still claiming that a pver can out damage a pvpr and thats simply not the case. if you realized that the extra acc is also a benifit for landing a critical hit you might understand its not a waste either.

i have no idea why you cant grasp that a pve build usually pales compaired a pvp build with both aiming to do the same thing- kill things quickly.

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But then again I'm still learning the game compared
To you guys and will never match you uber skillz
Not that I care too either , it seems with Eliteness comes
Inbred rudeness and that isn't me

So I'll keep my Noobness
right...once again saying we're dumb ones then backhanding with insults. way to go dude!


simple solution to your claims. tell us what weapons youre using. and what ships for a team to take out one of the space stf's and ill find a pvp team that'll use the same stuff and do it faster all because of the skill tree and player skill.
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# 36
10-22-2012, 02:32 AM
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Very untrue with the exception of the mine setup

A pve players doesn't use skills I'n defensive areas
A pvper has to , thus limiting a pvpers Dps or survivalability
I'n pvp, that's why most who pvp do not pve

If anything your statement is a joke
I guess one doesn't need defensive skills when not specced any points into thread generation....

Let the pvp-er of the stf team take the damage for the other (true) pve-ers
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# 37
10-22-2012, 02:50 AM
Is this what STO has come to? Damn, no wonder no one PvPs anymore... People are on their "My ship can pew pew more than yours" horse and now we troll the PvEers...

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# 38
10-22-2012, 02:55 AM
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Is this what STO has come to? Damn, no wonder no one PvPs anymore... People are on their "My ship can pew pew more than yours" horse and now we troll the PvEers...

>.>
you do realize the "pver" started this pissing match right?
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# 39
10-22-2012, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by matteo716maikai View Post
youre still claiming that a pver can out damage a pvpr and thats simply not the case. if you realized that the extra acc is also a benifit for landing a critical hit you might understand its not a waste either.

i have no idea why you cant grasp that a pve build usually pales compaired a pvp build with both aiming to do the same thing- kill things quickly.
Lets not count out the fact that a lot of PVP'ers I do PVE with change they're weapon load-out to better kill things and thus save time. When you don't need quite so much Acc then why not use other stuff? I like many others also change rapid fire to scatter volley to save time.

Five PVPers can do anything ingame I know better then five PVE'ers. The only exception that neither community can claim is winning No Win Scenario. Yet.

It's not diminishing PVE and those who play it, i'm not negating the skill required. It's just that the gulf between the two is large. And as somebody who's somewhere in the middle of the two, you can see lol.

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# 40
10-22-2012, 03:02 AM
Matteo

Your telling me you can take your pvp character
Ship and gear Boffs and doffs

And you can out do another character you
Create I'n damage I'n a STF ? With the same ship
But doffs Boffs and character to do extream damage
When you do not need all those defense skill points
You have to use I'n pvp

Is that what your saying ? That's what I am saying

If your saying the avg pvper is a more skilled
Player than the avg pver I agree 100%

I stand by what I've said many times already
A pvp team I'n pve

Will be out done by a pve team I'n pve

Skill at game roughly equal

If you disagree I respect your decision
But it doesn't change the facts
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