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# 11
10-22-2012, 08:08 AM
I'll take this over random drops any day.

It also means the low dps cruiser I like playing won't have to run CSE with the leet "look at my critz" commanders. Don't get me wrong, I love CSE in my escort .

And as for ground sets, people would buy them for the costume unlock alone.
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# 12
10-22-2012, 08:09 AM
Originally Posted by captainrevo1 View Post
it should, if im right and understanding it correctly, still be massively easier to get it via playing ground elites than doing the long grind. but i dont spend my time worrying about how others got theirs.
To be fair to the OP, it won't be easier via ground than space. Unless the prototype drops remain as a shortcut past the project grind (possibly know later this week as the relevant dev blogs drop, but talk so far has strongly implied it won't), the mark and dilithium reward from a ground STF is the same as a space STF.

For a good team running nothing but premades, it'll be pretty even either way. For an average player in PUG hell, it'll be much faster by space, regardless of what gear you're working towards.

Also, just to address one of the OP's complaints: How is this method any less "Star Trek" than the old one? If we wanted to make it more Trek, everybody would be issued the mk X set for free at the start of season 7, and to upgrade it they would have to loose an STF, take a commercial break, and then go back to win with your upgraded set.

Which you would immediately lose, never to regain again, no matter how useful it would be or how many times you get your butt kicked for lack of that mk XII set you had for half of one episode.

Last edited by hevach; 10-22-2012 at 08:15 AM.
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# 13
10-22-2012, 08:27 AM

And every ship would have a shuttle that was combat ready including the first enterprises

But as I said people un-deserving of the sets are wearing them already so what else is new.

Just wear you 300 completed ground mission accolade with pride I guess oh wait there isn't one
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# 14
10-22-2012, 08:32 AM
Reputation. It makes perfect sense. You complete omega missions you get omega's gear. Ground or space. Same for romulan.

I hate ground. People play it like space. Nobody heals allies or tanks. Ima tac captain that has dropped next to a sci and eng cap. Why did i have hate why didi not get healed while i was spamming hypos. I spent 120 edc's on a mark 11 maco set. I have both the mark 12 omega and maco space set.

Should i never do space again? Should i not be rewarded for defeating the borg in space?

The current system is busted. My brother did cure space ground elite 41 times. No mark 12 drop.
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# 15
10-22-2012, 08:42 AM
it is impossible to please everyone all the time. i will miss the drops, but like the idea of being able to get what i want or need.

for example, i have run dozens of IGEs and have never received the PSG. also, on cure ground i have run it dozens of times and only got 1 level 12 piece.

now in space it is totally different. i exchange proto borg tech for dilithium. i get proto borg tech all the time in space.

so on the ground no level 12 maco or omega sets, but more maco/omega than i need in space. maybe now i can get balanced.

Last edited by rdm1958; 10-22-2012 at 08:44 AM.
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# 16
10-22-2012, 08:59 AM
Reputation is fine as a name for the system if the subject is the reputation of the officer. When troops complete objectives in the face of danger the chain of command recognizes their ability. The reward is more opportunity for better gear, better assignments, more risk but better stuff. At the same time, slightly better gear should be issued to average performers to improve overall troop performance. We have this by earning MK XI gear through EDC purchase.

I got all my gear by elite drops and I started in elite ground ops. I got a MK XII gun but have yet to get any other MK XII drops despite constant ground elite grinds. There is a point where this gets old and frustrating. It is now at the point where I would just like to buy the damn things and get it done so I can go back to...playing the game for FUN!
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Last edited by tancrediiv; 10-22-2012 at 09:00 AM. Reason: Correction
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# 17
10-22-2012, 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by jacenjacen24 View Post
It makes perfect sense.

I hate ground
Yep, it does make perfect sense you'd like some ground sets you'd otherwise never get.
Exclusively based on your comments of how to play ground I can honestly say you are a rook.
Mainly it's how you blame others when you are the in-experienced.
As a sidenote remark to that, "tanks" in any game in history are supposed to heal themselves.
So I think you have a lot to learn.

BUT, it's fine you don't want to and I think it's great you people ("what do you mean you people") can buy items for maps you aren't able to beat.

The complaint here is only that the system is called reputation and the implication of that is respect for accomplishments.
Since you never accomplished anything on the ground you shouldn't get the respect or the reputation for something you virtually are incapable of.

A little like buying 1000 day veteran rewards for cash in oppose to actually playing 1000 days - albeit that's a different kind of challenge.

But as I said before that's how it already is on the ground, I carry "unworthy" people everytime I play and I help them all I can gladly.
I would carry you through ground in 5 min if you wanted, I have sto up on my other pc...

Just strictly speaking "reputation" should not credit you for something you are not or cannot.

It's fine though, especially if people bought the game way I see it they bought every pixel and sound effect and animation, they own and of course they should have everything.

Not a huge issue really, I wouldn't trust my reputation to anyone but myself anyway I don't lean on others' perception of me, either I own at ground or I don't nothing will change that.
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# 18
10-22-2012, 09:09 AM
To be honest, it is better than the old system of random drops.

All I know is my wallet is closed and my gear will only be funded by cryptic, so its win win for me

Who cares whether someone who hates ground and only does space can still buy a ground set....

I don't remember anyone complaining about salvage that could be used for both, but suddenly its all "Oh Noes!!!".

Last edited by darkenzedd; 10-22-2012 at 09:14 AM.
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# 19
10-22-2012, 11:37 AM
So you can just grind any mission and put your marks towards whatever mk xii gear you want to buy?

The old system was flawed, but allot of people worked hard to unlock their space and ground sets. Now those rewards seem marginalized.

The best rewards in the game should be a challenge to obtain and require you to work specific missions.

To those that claim they don't run specific missions because they are "broken" or "to hard", the sad truth is that you either surround yourself with bad teammates or are just a bad player yourself, but with this new system I guess everyone can feel "elite".
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# 20
10-22-2012, 11:49 AM
If you are playing a video game to earn "exclusive" gear so you can pimp it on ESD and show it off to the new players who haven't "earned" it, you have bigger issues that what they choose to call the new system.

Perspective. Some people have it, and others play video games to look cool.

The new system, whatever they want to call it, is much improved over the old. No one will now have to run 100's of elite STFs (ground or space) and feel ripped off when they do not get a super-rare propotype drop for a single piece of mk XII maco or omega gear.

That is a huge improvement over the current system. Sorry it doesn't stroke the ego of those of you who are into lording your "accomplishments" over the newbs, but for everyone else, its a big improvement.

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