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# 11
10-22-2012, 10:29 PM
These would show the Federation is going away from the submissive 'lets build exploration ships!' to 'we have been at war for how long? Lets build battleships!'.

It's like Japan bombed the US in pearl and instead of building more carriers they built cruise ships and put 5'' guns on them. The whole not at war but at war, but not really at war, but at war with multiple entities but not really at war is confusing.
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# 12
10-22-2012, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by f9thaceshigh View Post
you know all those fighters are the same, right? All those fighters use the Klingon fighter model. In fact, before they added the Peregrines and Scorpions to the game, all of the fighters in the game were just reskins of them, even the Fed and Romulan fighters.
::cough:: Peregine have been in the game since the launch..just not player accessible. StarBase 24 had a number of them flying around the U.S.S. McCoy at the end of that Fleet Action.
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# 13
10-23-2012, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by age03 View Post
The Typhoon is Battleship not a Dread as it is the only BB the Feds have as the KDF have Neg'Var and the Rommies the DDrex Warbird.
Since you're comparing an NPC ship with an NPC ship...how is this relevant?
NPC classes usually have no proper Playership counterpart so if they were converted their would probably be changed as well.
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# 14
10-23-2012, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by f9thaceshigh View Post
you know all those fighters are the same, right? All those fighters use the Klingon fighter model. In fact, before they added the Peregrines and Scorpions to the game, all of the fighters in the game were just reskins of them, even the Fed and Romulan fighters.

They've said that they don't want to turn the NPC gorn/nausican/Orion ships into Playable ships because the work needed on them would be comparable to introducing a whole new design, they would much rather come up with something original.
Um, all ingame fighters and pets have their own model.
Stinger
Raider
Naga
This includes the Gorn shield drones and the Orion Marauders.
The only fighters to share a model is the Romulan T'lis and the Generic Fighter.
Delta Rising is the best ex... oh sod it, I just want my Jupiter and Typhoon

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# 15
10-23-2012, 07:00 AM
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I'm not a huge fan of either, but yeah sure variety's good.

That said the current models aren't high enough quality to be used without being reworked, I suspect that's why it's not an easy copy and paste, but yeah, it's weird they've never taken these on board, I can only assume it's a CBS block on the Jupiter as it's more or less dissapeared from the NPC lists too.
As far as I know CBS was ok with the Jupiter staying in the game, it was originally used as a placeholder for the Galaxy X before it first came out. The only reason it's been phased out (that I can find, and trust me I look) is because it has been replaced with the ship it was intended to be replaced by.

The Typhoon has no such backstory, I'm surprised that it has not been put into the game sooner.

Yes, the current models of both are not up to snuff, but as myself and countless others have said in the past, it's infinitely easier to polish a model and add some weapon hard points than to make a new ship from scratch.

It surprises me with all the money grabbing that Cryptic and Perfect World are doing that they wouldn't just add the two ships for some quick cash, as I've said before I'd pay for it... And others would as well.

What it comes down to is Dev time and they have other things to do. My only tif is that we've been calling for ships like the Typhoon and Jupiter since the game started and we've even been told that the Jupiter and Typhoon would be distinct possibilities for this past season. However, everyone at Cryptic seemed to have forgotten...

Ah well, I can wait I suppose...
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# 16
10-23-2012, 07:12 AM
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I can only assume it's a CBS block on the Jupiter as it's more or less dissapeared from the NPC lists too.
They've hardly disappeared - all of the named Dreadnoughts in the new Starbase Fleet Alert mission are Jupiters.

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I don't really care whether the Jupiter and Typhoon become playable; I think they're the two ugliest Fed ships in the game. But if making them playable adds some new skins that show up on NPCs, I'm all for it.
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# 17
10-23-2012, 08:32 AM
Typhoon I'd love to see and buy.

Jupiter, not so much, rarely have I seen an uglier ship.
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# 18
10-23-2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by husnock1 View Post
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View it this way, I've been pushing for a Vesta since Beta, and next month, I will finially get one with luck.

Edit: I think the typhoon could be a pretty nice unlockable skin for any Oddy variants.

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# 19
10-23-2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by psycoticvulcan View Post
I don't really care whether the Jupiter and Typhoon become playable; I think they're the two ugliest Fed ships in the game. But if making them playable adds some new skins that show up on NPCs, I'm all for it.
Really? This game has the Horizon Class, and the Trident Class, not to mention the Imperial, and Nomad Classes. Suddenly the Typhoon looks beautiful.
However the Jupiter is ugly no matter what.
Delta Rising is the best ex... oh sod it, I just want my Jupiter and Typhoon

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# 20
10-23-2012, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by artan42 View Post
Really? This game has the Horizon Class, and the Trident Class, not to mention the Imperial, and Nomad Classes. Suddenly the Typhoon looks beautiful.
Imperial is hideous, true. The others are ugly, but tolerable. At least they rarely show up during normal gameplay.

The Typhoon, on the other hand, shows up a LOT - almost every time Fed battleship is involved. So it's much more annoying, in my view.

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I think the typhoon could be a pretty nice unlockable skin for any Oddy variants.
Typhoon is a Battleship; Odyssey is a Dreadnought.
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