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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 11
10-23-2012, 08:48 PM
Everyone of my toons has mainly MK XI Blue consoles. I have a couple toons with MK XII blue and purple dmg consoles.... the ones that use torpedos, cause those consoles didn't cost me 20mil each... and frankly the handful of those consoles that I have lucked into with missions and such I have sold cause frankly they make almost no difference anyway... I'll take the EC.

Retro Borg Set = 3-8 STF (pve) runs... and can be gotten in as little as 2 hours.

Maco or KHG chances are if you do those 3-8 STF runs again you can have 2-3 piece sets in MK XI at least just as quickly.

As for weapons... The majority of my toons have MK XI Purple weapons most of which have come from the exchange for 200k and under...

A handful of my toons have MK XII weaponry that I have put together over a few months... and frankly the difference is minimal.

The wonderful thing about PvP in STO is gear is NOT a deciding factor. If you felt you where not performing as well as others it is 99% experience. 49% of which is experience building for pvp... and 50% of which will be understanding STO PvP.... that other 1% ya thats gear.

This isn't Bios Fail MMO... you don't need lowbie pvp gear... Frankly with in 2 hours of PvEing... you WILL have gear parity with 95% of STOs PvP players... only a handful of people honestly worry about every little piece of MK XII purple gear... and frankly most Long time PvPers will tell you they are 100% wasting there time, and EC.
Captain
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# 12
10-23-2012, 09:10 PM
Most of the power creep has been ships and there are big issues w/this imo, then some rare doffs, then some P2W consoles and last is normal gear.

That said the reason PvP is bad is Mgt deciding that it be so. It's not other players.

Still, there's enough people who are still working on skills like piloting, learning when to buff, when to debuff a target, when to switch targets etc you can get away w/lower end ships and gear in most PuG matches.

For example, a big source of damage for me when I fly Tac is knowing to save GDF and when to pop it. Many people just use GDF whenever it comes available and lose a very good burst to their dps.

Further there are basic things like turning your ship when you lose a shield facing, when to go nose to nose w/an escort and when to fly past them, watch their buff cycles for windows when their TT will be down, piloting so they're in your forward arc while you are in a position which limits the damage they can apply, rolling resist/repairs etc.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 13
10-24-2012, 03:36 AM
Gear is frankly irrelevant. Ships and DOFFs - well, that's another matter, especially DOFFs as ships are not all that important. I'm flying mostly free ships and they work.

But gear? Sorry, my VA eng flies free Star Cruiser with blue (ok, two purple) Mk X weapons, blue Mk XI consoles and purple Mk XI shields/engines/deflector - NOT a set, just custom choosen elements from exchange. And I use purple Mk XI only because with all those hunt for sets they are pretty cheap.

I use high shield/aux healer setup so my DPS is rather patetic outside of EPST/NI/Weapons Battery spikes ever few minutes but the ship handles itself pretty well in combat. Good enough for me to help against (or tank) players from PvP fleets in Ker'rat - this is only place I fly currently as PvP queues are pretty much dead.

And although I play a lot of PvP I consider myself a just a little above a newb (I'm PUGer) and I got my ass handed to me a bit too often. So if someone like me can fly and fight and feel that I contribute at least a little in custom tailored cheap PvE gear 3 levels below the top gear (XII, XI, X - three levels) then gear is not important at all.

BTW - my tac in escort (cmdr) flying all white Mk VI was giving a fight VA sci-Klink in some Gorn ship (I think it was Gorn). Ok, as soon as I was SNBed it was game over. Without buffs I was not able to harm him or tank him and his damn sci magic, but still - Mk VI whites vs most probably Borg or KHG gear and it was still competitive to some extend. What got me in the end was not his gear but his BOFF and captain abilities (and his skill at using them).
Career Officer
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# 14
10-24-2012, 04:53 AM
Didn't there use to be a guy in ESD that sold MKX green gear for ECs?

That was back when MkX was top of the range. I think we should track down that guy and put him to work again, and ofc supply him with gren XII gear. This way, everyone could have competitive gear at a reasonalble price, without grinding their as s off in PvE. Then the only thing missing would be the sets.
Captain
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# 15
10-24-2012, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Players can replay their way into Breen/Jem or craft Aegis - so they can run STFs to get Borg/Maco/KHG/Omega...

...yes, they still have to PVE for their gear - but it's what folks did before the Fleet gear.
LOL
NONE of those sets will last 30 seconds in a PvP match, you'll need mk12 gear which is time consuming to grind for. With the upcoming S7 changes the grind will get easier but you'll need to buy your way into the store to get those items. I read the fleet items are also good, but more fleet grind to get the SB to fleet provisioning level unlock, then more grind the actually provision the SB. DOFF's for PvP are expensive, rare, and will be more expensive come S7.

THEN there's the fleet ship debacle for KDF players.

PvP is DEAD because Cryptic/PWE listens to their Fed fanboys who wants it to die.
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Captain
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# 16
10-24-2012, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lordmalak1 View Post
LOL
NONE of those sets will last 30 seconds in a PvP match
I suggest you read what I said again, eh?

Breen/Jem/Aegis -> STF -> ESTF Gear....

...it's a progression. It's not a list.
Captain
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# 17
10-24-2012, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lordmalak1 View Post
LOL
NONE of those sets will last 30 seconds in a PvP match, you'll need mk12 gear which is time consuming to grind for. With the upcoming S7 changes the grind will get easier but you'll need to buy your way into the store to get those items. I read the fleet items are also good, but more fleet grind to get the SB to fleet provisioning level unlock, then more grind the actually provision the SB. DOFF's for PvP are expensive, rare, and will be more expensive come S7.

THEN there's the fleet ship debacle for KDF players.

PvP is DEAD because Cryptic/PWE listens to their Fed fanboys who wants it to die.
What are you talking about.... I run MK XI purples mostly for weapons... I have Aegis sets on more then a few toons... and borg retro sets that came from 30 min of stfs on others.... As for klink gettiing crap ships for fleet versions... thats total BS... they get best offensive cruiser... and 2 of the best escorts in the game, sorry but anyone that hasn't flown a Fleet Scourge doesn't understand that IS one of the best escorts in the game, the only escort that may be slightly better is the Jem. (which is dual faction)
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