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# 161
10-24-2012, 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post

(Existing Way)
- Statistical number of STF runs needed to get a specific prototype drop = X

(New Reputation Way)
- Number of STF runs needed to max out Omega Fleet and acquire gear = 60% less than X
Since the old system is being nuked, can you enlighten us as to how it worked? What is X in this case? How was the random calculated, how it was applied to the tables and all that jazz.

Dsthal, Branflakes:


I'm hearing anywere from 60 to 90 days of "casual" play to grind the new gear.

Can you give us an idea of what Cryptic defines as "casual?" One or two STFs per day? All seven, every day?
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Posts: 96
# 162
10-24-2012, 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post
Dilithium, Fleet Marks, Omega Marks, and Romulan Marks will be available from a wide variety of missions once Season 7 launches.

Generally speaking
if it is missions against the Borg, it will reward Omega Marks.

If it is missions involving New Romulus or the new Sector it will reward Omega Marks

All Fleet Actions that previously rewarded Gear only, will now reward Gear and Dilithium at all scores with a special 2x Dilithium bonus for coming in Gold on an STF.

Fleet Marks will be available from more PVE Queue missions.

Dilithium Ore will be available from more missions and via the Reputation system

This coming in gold in an STF seems new... and likely to be uh... bad. Really bad. Everyone trying to get a gold star and not wanting to do the jobs that need to be done is a path to failure. Just sayin'.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 416
# 163
10-24-2012, 02:34 PM
You want some feedback?

Here's some.

To make us wait until Tier V to earn something we've already earned is preposterous.

We've already earned this stuff! We've run the STFs. We've accumulated everything.

Why do we have to wait until Tier V, running even more STFs, just to get stuff that I should have had already?

Bad move. Bad, bad move.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,173
SO - all of the Borg Tech, EDC, SpaceWampum, CyberCoins, BorgDollars etc from STFs that we earned, if we don't spend them before season 7...they will be put in a "LOCKBOX" that we can open, provided that we grind to T-5.

So, in effect, to get the value out of what we have now, we will be forced to grind. No way around it. in order to open our safe-deposit box of loot, we have to run the gerbil treadmill of death, the "playing as intended" escalator of fail.

This is utter nonsense. Is it because you don't have everything for T-5 fleshed out yet and need more time? Is there concerns that too many people have enough saved up loot to circumvent this?

I understand you wanting to start everyone even, but the fact is, not everyone is. So, on second though, no, I don't understand it.

You remove random loot as it is, now THIS?!?!?

This is like the first hour of Disneyland: Before they open the rides, they open the shops for an hour or so. Lame.

-ABM
Cryptic Studios Team
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 185
# 165
10-24-2012, 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fakehilbert View Post
Hows does the equation look if one is interested in Mk XI gear? Is the new system still faster than the old one?
MK XI gear unlocks at T3 of the Omega Rep system so is faster to get than the MK XII.

The prices of all the gear is calculated off the reduction in time needed to get the MK XII gear, so it is intended to be less over all the gear options.
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# 166
10-24-2012, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by srafaorasp View Post
I do elite STF's with my fleet. this is not a issue for people who actualy want to play the game. for people who want to complain that they feel they have to play. well this works out for them to.

I remember having to take entire weeks off of work (use it or loose it time for vac time hehe) just to get a small leg up on what i am doing in MMO's in the past. this is nothing.
im sorry i dont understand what you wrote. can you explain it ?
If only they fix Cloaking bugg *new message BOOM decloacked.
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Posts: 119
# 167
10-24-2012, 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwhornet View Post
Cryptic: We understand that the current loot drop system is a bit ridiculous at times
Player: Yea it takes way too long to get.
Cryptic: Ok, we are just going to take it away from everyone, introduce a shiny new system, and you can re-earn it.
Player: WTF I already have it.
Cryptic: Yea so? You'll get it back once we deem it ok.
Player: Huh? I already earned it you Internet Gestapo, give it back.
Cryptic: Ha, we make the rules, pay for it.
Player: MECH WARRIOR ONLINE, HERE I COME!
Cryptic: WTH?!?
Player: I got tired of your nonsense.
PWE: After reviewing your job performance, You are all fired!.
Stahl: Guess we went to far.
Borticus: I wonder if I can get my show back on JupiterBroadcasting.com. Beer sure was tasty!
Player: Beer is tasty!
Borticus: You know I can do a better star trek game with out Stahl and Co, screwing things up for me.
Player: good go for it, Just give me back my gear.
you are not loosing your gear. you are loosing the items you use to buy the gear to a conversion. if you already got the gear and acolades you keep them
Career Officer
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Posts: 883
# 168
10-24-2012, 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post
Dilithium, Fleet Marks, Omega Marks, and Romulan Marks will be available from a wide variety of missions once Season 7 launches.

Generally speaking
if it is missions against the Borg, it will reward Omega Marks.

If it is missions involving New Romulus or the new Sector it will reward Omega Marks

All Fleet Actions that previously rewarded Gear only, will now reward Gear and Dilithium at all scores with a special 2x Dilithium bonus for coming in Gold on an STF.

Fleet Marks will be available from more PVE Queue missions.

Dilithium Ore will be available from more missions and via the Reputation system
Thanks for answering my question Dan.
The ability to earn these Marks from normal story missions will be a huge boon to the system, and a great way to have a break from stf's etc

So from your answer, I take it only the current missions on Tribble that are awarding the relevent Marks will be playable until season 7 is launched.

Id best do a few of the group missions to show willing then.

Ps. I love the new Rep system, and cannot wait for it to go live!!
Empire Veteran
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Posts: 172
# 169
10-24-2012, 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post
MK XI gear unlocks at T3 of the Omega Rep system so is faster to get than the MK XII.

The prices of all the gear is calculated off the reduction in time needed to get the MK XII gear, so it is intended to be less over all the gear options.
im sorry dstahl but how can you say that when it takes 23.5 days to get the set ?

552 hours. Physical waiting. and ontop of that the required game time to produce that dilithium quanity needed for it ? not to mention the marks.

how is that better ?

sorry but your makeing it sound horrible.

i got mk XII on 5 toons i dont want my 6th toon take 23.5 days or 552 hours game time to get the set when i know i could have done it in less on the old system.
If only they fix Cloaking bugg *new message BOOM decloacked.
Lt. Commander
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# 170
10-24-2012, 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post
MK XI gear unlocks at T3 of the Omega Rep system so is faster to get than the MK XII.

The prices of all the gear is calculated off the reduction in time needed to get the MK XII gear, so it is intended to be less over all the gear options.
For one full Mk XI set I need 120 EDC. That is 60 Elite STFs. One space STF takes 15 minutes, so I can do all three within one hour and then repeat once the 1h counter has run out. Which means that it takes me 20 hours of /played to get one Mk XI set (less if I get drops or can squeeze in some ground STFs).

Are you really saying that it will take less than 20 hours to get to T3?
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