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# 51
11-01-2012, 12:09 PM
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I wish feds would get over thier Pedastel complex, its a very annoying for the KDF to keep being told to "be happy" with the things we are not happy with about KDF gameplay.
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# 52
11-02-2012, 12:20 PM
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Well said, father bitemepwe.
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# 53
11-02-2012, 07:52 PM
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Your not saying it doesn't make it untrue.

Between the Atrox (the slow moving science heavy VoQ clone), the Armitage (the Tac heavy fast turning escort carrier), and the upcomming Vesta (the science heavy fast turning scicort carrier) the feds have the carrier vessel class well covered.

The feds have great pets for them as well.
The Atrox is not a dediacted carrier and the Armitage which I have one doesn't have that many fighters.
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# 54
11-02-2012, 07:54 PM
how on earth is the Atrox not a dedicated carrier o.0
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# 55
11-02-2012, 07:59 PM
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how on earth is the Atrox not a dedicated carrier o.0
It is not a Federation designed carrier.
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# 56
11-02-2012, 08:08 PM
that doesnt not make it a dedicated carrier , its just not a starfleet dedicated carrier
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# 57
11-02-2012, 09:23 PM
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The Atrox is not a dediacted carrier and the Armitage which I have one doesn't have that many fighters.
What? The @#$%? Are you smoking? How is the Atrox anything BUT a carrier? It's too slow and unwieldy to be a science ship, which is the only other alternative. It has two hangar bays. A ton of HP. Strong shields. Lots of sci capability. All I see when I see one of those is a carrier. Nothing else.

And the Armitage is an escort carrier. Not a true carrier. But seriously, how is the Atrox NOT a dedicated carrier???
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# 58
11-02-2012, 09:51 PM
I'n all strict and regular cannon Starfleet has never
Built or used (fighters)

Fighters I'n all star trek cannon are expendable
Resources just like firing a torpedo

Starfleet has never used it's personal this way

The Klingons never used them either but there
Racial beliefs would allow them too if they wished

And remember STO is soft/ soft serve cannon
So they can do almost anything they want to
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# 59
11-02-2012, 11:38 PM
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I'n all strict and regular cannon Starfleet has never
Built or used (fighters)
...have you actually watched any Star Trek?

Don't you remember waves of fighters being used by Starfleet in Sacrifice of Angels?

How about Sisko ordering

"Attack fighters, tactical pattern theta. Concentrate your fire on the Cardassian ships and then split off into squadrons and run like hell."?

Using the fighters as bait for Cardassian ships to lure them out of position? You know, his strategy in that battle?

Starfleet is the only group that's actually used fighter scale ships. The Klingons, Jem'Hadar, and Cardassians use light frigates, often in the same role- BoPs, Bugs, and Hidekis, respectively- and the Romulans seem solely big-gun.
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# 60
11-03-2012, 12:09 AM
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...have you actually watched any Star Trek?

Don't you remember waves of fighters being used by Starfleet in Sacrifice of Angels?

How about Sisko ordering

"Attack fighters, tactical pattern theta. Concentrate your fire on the Cardassian ships and then split off into squadrons and run like hell."?

Using the fighters as bait for Cardassian ships to lure them out of position? You know, his strategy in that battle?

Starfleet is the only group that's actually used fighter scale ships. The Klingons, Jem'Hadar, and Cardassians use light frigates, often in the same role- BoPs, Bugs, and Hidekis, respectively- and the Romulans seem solely big-gun.
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If you look closely using freeze frame those ships were
Were much larger than fighters bigger than runabouts

Some looked like jakota's ship from the Maquie
More of a corvette size , however no cannon exists
With Feds building or fielding fighters of any kind.

Ds9
Voyager
Made many huge departures from cannon I'n a lot of
Episodes

Voyager perhaps the worst ( 1 shoting Borg tactical cubes )
For instance.
The Defiant from ds9 , has no game play mechanics
To back up it's capabilities that make any sense with the
Rest of the star trek cannon

Many fans refer to anything made after tos and to the
Release of TNG soft cannon others disagree

The main point being after Gene Rs death anyone who
Had the rights could do anything they wanted to do with
The game.
TNG , ds9 , Voy, changed cannon at the drop of a deadline
I'n there shows then contradict themselves 3 shows later.

I liked the shows but the facts are facts
Just like this game

Weapon range 10 km
No
Fh11 Phasers on a Excelcior has a maximum range of
240,000 km
With this I'n mind see how useless fighters really are ?
A fighters weapon range is 10 km because there do small
A Capitol ship weapon is bigger than the fighter itself

STO wanted fighters so they changed weapon ranges to
Add them into the game
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