Captain
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# 1 Zen...which ship to buy ?
10-25-2012, 02:10 AM
Alrighty, well, Greetings all,

I'm still fairly new to star trek online. I have 4 characters, 3 are level 50, so I do know some things, yet not as much as the experienced ones here, and it is your advice I am seeking:

I've got some zen, and yet I don't have money to get zen, so this is why I am asking this question:

Which Federation Ship is the Best ship to buy with zen, in your opinion and why?

I've been looking at the Dreadnought Cruiser for some time now, that looks to me like a tough ship, it seems it can load heavy dual cannons, I like that idea, to be able to use a cruiser which also fires cannons, would be an asset indeed.

It seems to have a cloak as well, though I do not think it has "battle cloak". It has a "spinal" thingy too, I'm not sure what that is for, unless more powerful phaser fire?

So that's the one ship I'm thinking of getting, yet there's also the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit, I like the idea that it can seperate the saucer section , yet I don't think it would be as powerful as the Dreadnought.


Anyhow yea, please, if anyone can give me their thoughts, I'd appreciate it, which "zen" federation ship? and why?

Even if the ship you suggest is not the dreadnought or exploration retrofit, thats cool too, I'd like to hear all ideas.

(oh and just to confirm , when you buy a ship with zen its unlocked for all current and future fed characters correct?)

Thanks, live long and Prosper!

Last edited by amahood; 12-26-2012 at 12:08 AM.
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# 2
10-25-2012, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by amahood View Post
Alrighty, well, Greetings all,

I'm still fairly new to star trek online. I have 4 characters, 3 are level 50, so I do know some things, yet not as much as the experienced ones here, and it is your advice I am seeking:

I've bought some zen, and yet I don't have money enough to get zen frequently, so this is why I am asking this question:

Which Federation Ship is the Best ship to buy with zen, in your opinion and why?

I've been looking at the Dreadnought Cruiser for some time now, that looks to me like a tough ship, it seems it can load heavy dual cannons, I like that idea, to be able to use a cruiser which also fires cannons, would be an asset indeed.

It seems to have a cloak as well, though I do not think it has "battle cloak". It has a "spinal" thingy too, I'm not sure what that is for, unless more powerful phaser fire?

So that's the one ship I'm thinking of getting, yet there's also the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit, I like the idea that it can seperate the saucer section , yet I don't think it would be as powerful as the Dreadnought.


Anyhow yea, please, if anyone can give me their thoughts, I'd appreciate it, which "zen" federation ship? and why?

Even if the ship you suggest is not the dreadnought or exploration retrofit, thats cool too, I'd like to hear all ideas.

(oh and just to confirm , when you buy a ship with zen its unlocked for all current and future fed characters correct?)

Thanks, live long and Prosper!
It really depends on what you want to do, but word to the wise if you want the Gal-X to use dual cannons...don't purchase it...its way to slow turning to use dual cannons to any real affect. The Exploration cruiser is kinda a bad choice...because the ship has a really lousy Boff layout with to many engineering slots.

If your looking for a good cruiser to do some damage with I would say go with the assault cruiser refit.

Last edited by lianthelia; 10-25-2012 at 02:16 AM.
Captain
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# 3
10-25-2012, 02:18 AM
hmmm, I didn't think about that.... bout it being slow to turn to use the cannons..... Now that has got me even more unsure now lol And I'm Happy for that!

cause This is why I'm asking, all you whom answer, I'm certain have more experience than I, so thank you for that thought, yea mainly the reason for my wanting that ship was the cannons.... yet now.... well, you bring up a good point.

as for what i want in a ship, i dont really know now so I'm hoping for opinions and ideas.
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# 4
10-25-2012, 02:40 AM
The dreadnought cruiser is nice. But it has its flaws. It may be able to equip cannons but due to its very low turnrate equiping cannons does only make sense against Borg structures and cubes. Such a build will be quite useless agains fast enemy ships. If you equip it with beam arrays it will be much more versatile.

The spinal phaser lance is a burst weapon directly built into your ship meaning it's not a console. You can fire it once every 3 min so it's nice to have but not very effective. If you buy a dreadnought you should equip it with phaser weapons and then get some phaser relays equiped. They increase you phaser lance's damage as well.

The saucer separation of the exploration cruiser retrofit is nice to have. Once separated your ship gets a higher turnrate. But you should know that the saucer section, as well as all separateable sections of any ship act quite dumb and they're usually not a very big help.

Personally I prefer to fly escorts. They deal high damage and are very maneuverable. My favourite ship is the defiant class due to its BOFF configuration and cloaking device. The Armitage class is nice as well and very versatile depending on the class of fighters you equip.

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(oh and just to confirm , when you buy a ship with zen its unlocked for all current and future fed characters correct?)
Yes that's correct.

Last edited by szim; 10-25-2012 at 02:43 AM.
Ensign
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# 5
10-25-2012, 03:24 AM
I use the Gal X with 4 heavy cannons and it's great. I mainly only do STFs so that's why. If I were to do PvP then it would suck.

With 4 dual heavy cannons fore, and 4 turrets aft it can be a beast. I can keep up dps wise with most escorts.
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# 6
10-25-2012, 03:43 AM
Hang on to it and wait for the Vesta.

Not that it matters - STO is for Escorts.
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# 7
10-25-2012, 04:16 AM
Given a choice between the Dreadnought and the Galaxy-refit, I'd go with the Galaxy-refit. I do not like the Dreadnought all that much, the third nacelle and all the weird stuff they just pasted onto the model look terrible IMO. Too busy etc. The Galaxy-refit is basically the ship you get from the show.

Either that's worth $20 or a couple weeks of grinding, or it's not, because the free ships you get are just as capable if not more so (as others have pointed out, while the Dreadnought CAN equip dual heavies, it's not necessarily a good idea to do so given its turn rate).
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# 8
10-25-2012, 07:26 AM
Tactical Escort Retrofit for your tactical toons, best choise imho ;-)
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# 9
10-25-2012, 07:58 AM
If you want a good Cruiser try the advanced heavy cruiser retrofit, can't go wrong with the Excelsior.

Any of the Odyssey variants are also good, but they're only real good if you get the 3 pack for the console set bonus as that helps to offset the slow turn rate.
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# 10
10-25-2012, 08:00 AM
My personal favorite is the Armitage loaded up with phaser beam arrays as a mini-tank and runabouts instead of fighters. Good turn rate and not limited by the firing arc of cannons. I have one quantum torpedo front and one back and use the photon spam console (can't remember the name right now).

Edit: I tried using the Armitage as a torpedo boat but found that, at least for my playing style, it just didn't turn fast enough to bring them to bear.

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