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# 21
10-25-2012, 01:29 PM
As far as science goes, I am happy with the Mirror Recon Science Vessel (Unless you are rich enough to get the Temporal Science Vessel). People are practically giving Mirror RSVs away on the exchange now.

My main reason for using it is the simple fact that it has 3 tactical boff ability slots (1 ensign tac, and one lt tac), along with 7 science boff slots (1 lt commander and 1 commander). It also has a much larger crew which helps in the rare event that something gets through your shields. Even the Z-Store Caitian and Advanced Research Vessel Refit (Nebula class) only have 2 tactical boff ability slots (1 lt tac).

For Cruisers I would get the Odyssey pack. 'nuff said.

For Tactical It's really what you would prefer between the Multi-Vector Advanced Escort, or the Tactical Escort Refit (Defiant). The MVAE gives you a Commander Science Boff slot in exchange for an ensign, lt, and lt commander tactical slots. The Defiant gives you a lt Science Boff slot in exhange for an ensign, lt commander, and commander tactical boff slots. Then there's the choice between cloaking and Multi-Vector Assault mode.

Peronally I would take the MVAE for 2 extra science tanking abilities and Multi-Vector Assault mode. For tanking, get a polarize, a hazard emitters, and two transfer shield strengths. Or if you want to get creative (for PvE only), you could spec into flow capacitors, buy a science boff with Tyken's 3 on the Commander ability slot and make NPC borg ships cry. Also, the cloaking on the Defiant isn't really that useful once you are in combat.
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# 22
10-25-2012, 01:49 PM
The excelsior retrofit is a good ship. I personally like it; it has been my main ship since it was released.

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# 23
10-25-2012, 01:50 PM
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The excelsior retrofit is a good ship. I personally like it; it has been my main ship since it was released.
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# 24
10-25-2012, 03:17 PM
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For Tactical It's really what you would prefer between the Multi-Vector Advanced Escort, or the Tactical Escort Refit (Defiant). The MVAE gives you a Commander Science Boff slot in exchange for an ensign, lt, and lt commander tactical slots. The Defiant gives you a lt Science Boff slot in exhange for an ensign, lt commander, and commander tactical boff slots. Then there's the choice between cloaking and Multi-Vector Assault mode.

Peronally I would take the MVAE for 2 extra science tanking abilities and Multi-Vector Assault mode. For tanking, get a polarize, a hazard emitters, and two transfer shield strengths. Or if you want to get creative (for PvE only), you could spec into flow capacitors, buy a science boff with Tyken's 3 on the Commander ability slot and make NPC borg ships cry. Also, the cloaking on the Defiant isn't really that useful once you are in combat.
I get what you're saying here... but I just don't want an MVAE. I like the look of the Defiant. I like the fact that it's an iconic ship and it reminds me of DS9.

Is there a good video of someone flying an MVAE? That might convince me.
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# 25
10-25-2012, 08:32 PM
+1 vote for waiting till Season 7 to do anything! Comes out in November.

If you have 70-80 million EC there are good ships on the Exchange.

As for the Z-store ships, and you want a cruiser, I'd vote for the T5 Excelsior. Good turn rate for a cruiser, good boff layout. All round good ship. Plus it costs 500 less than the dreadnaught, assault cruiser refit or the explore refit.

Obviously, the 'best' cruiser is the Odyssey. But get the 3pack if you get it for all the consoles. That's what I run for my engineer/cruiser driver.
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# 26
10-25-2012, 10:54 PM
I have played many different types of ships, but I found that love the MVAM Escort. I used it for most of the time that I have played the game. It is quick and hard-hitting like Escorts.

The MVAM can separate to give you three ships rather than a single one. When separating, you can choose which section you want to command: top, middle, or bottom sections, each piece representing a ship type: Cruiser, Escort and Science respectively. The other two sections become NPCs with their own weapons and abilities to help you.

Also, you can pop the Console out and stick it in to the normal Advanced Escort or the Fleet Advanced Escort. That way you can have a choice of Bridge Officer layouts to fit your personal play style while still allowing for the separation ability.


As for the Galaxy-X, I have that ship. I use it on my Borg Captain (with the Borg Set, and a No Organics Allowed crew). I use nine Turrets on it: one in each Weapon Slot plus one in a Console (although you get ten Turrets if you use both Console types). This way Turn Rate is irrelevant since it does full damage 360 degrees. Then there is the Spinal Lance for anyone who flies in front of the vessel (if you have seen the last episode of TNG, the Spinal Lance is that large cannon mounted under the saucer section of the Future Enterprise).

I find that build of the Gal-X to be fun to play with. Granted, she is only a PvE ship. She would bite if I tried to use her in PvP. Not only because the weaker output of turrets, but also because since I built it as a Borg version it uses only Plasma type weapons. And that is really the trick: if you do not play PvP, you can fly whatever you want with whatever loadout you want. Pick what looks cool to you and go for it.
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# 27
10-25-2012, 11:29 PM
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Alrighty, well, Greetings all,

I'm still fairly new to star trek online. I have 4 characters, 3 are level 50, so I do know some things, yet not as much as the experienced ones here, and it is your advice I am seeking:

I've bought some zen, and yet I don't have money enough to get zen frequently, so this is why I am asking this question:

Which Federation Ship is the Best ship to buy with zen, in your opinion and why?
For starters you have to be specific in what exactly is your play style, or for that matter what role do you wish to take. Remember to spec according to the TYPE of ship. Eng, Tact, & Sci

Obviously if you desire to TANK, then go cruiser - BUT keep in mind that the Tank role in a PvP scenerio is obsolete, because of the nature of PVP.

I did PvP in my Dreadnaught in the past - pre-nerf - and met with success due to my team. However; Post Nerf - the Tanker days were numbered.

PvP Cruiser vs Escort - with new consoles etc.. Cruisers tend to get shredded in sec now

Science vessels are your middle of the road vessels with various sci abilities. Its the "Mage" of the bunch, sorta speak.

If you're a Tact, stay away from cruisers - Though you can make a moderate good build with Tact/Cruiser - Thing is, you tend to lose potential. This is very very true in PvP scenerios, which portray the Tact profession as ruthless killing machines.

Again - all this depends on spec, player knowledge, and skills. However; Keep in mind that +1 Consoles or special consoles tip the scale of balance - Things like Point defense system etc... can tip the scale to the one possessing it.

In a NUTSHELL if you are a tact profession and want to use a cruiser or science vessel, then spec for the vessel and not the profession. This is determined by number of profession specific BO slots and console slots.

RULE of thumb - spec according to the ship. However; Your profession may lose some potential.

IMHO - My choice for Cruisers are the following:

#1 - Excelsior Refit - still one of the best in the game
#2 - Oddy 3 Pack - The ship is Ugly as Hell, but if looks don't matter to you, go for it.
#3 - Regent Class

My Choice for Escorts:

#1 - If you are RICH - Jem'Hadar Attack Fighter - Considered the BEST Escort in the game
#2 - Defiant Refit - Though I wish the cloak was a Battle cloak
#3 - MVA - Nice vessel to have / nicely balanced

My Choice for Science:

#1 - Luna Class / will be replaced by the Vesta (need to see specs)
#2 - Deep science vessel
#3 - Intrepid

My Choice of Science Carriers:

#1 - The Best Carrier in the game - Tholian Recluse
#2 - The KDF Carrier
#3 - (While not a True Carrier per se / The Artimage, which serves as a Flight Deck Carrier, is a fun ship to experiment with)

(Stay away from the Atrox - worst carrier of the three)
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# 28
10-26-2012, 12:51 AM
ok, first off, THANK YOU EVERYBODY!!!!!!! for your fantastic answers!!

You do not know just How Much I appreciate them all and indeed the time you all took to do so!!

God if I could only reply to every single one LOL, yet I have read them all and am grateful to all of you dear fellow star trek fans for your replies.

After reading all the replies, you have definitly made me re-think what ship to buy. before-hand I had just had my eye on the two mentioned, yet Now, I actually am quite interested in practically all the ships now LOL.

Somone mentioned a "Vesta", I'm not too sure what that is or what it will look like, it sounds to me like an escort ship name..?

StarK2K, thank you also indeed, for all your advice as well, you are most correct when saying I was not precise enough with explaining what I'm looking for in a ship. (for that I am sorry folks), yet truth be-told, I was so uncertain of my decision that literally ANY ship is a welcome idea for me.

The kind of federation officer I like to create the most (at the moment), is science officers, mainly because at level 50 you can use what others don't get (as far as I know), which is the "photonic fleet" (--correct term?)) , basically , (as I'm sure your all aware no doubt), with all officers, at that level, once your ship is under 50% you can call upon a fleet, yet science admirals can call upon another fleet without waiting to be that percentage of ship health.

So that's why my preferred officer to use is a science one.

As for a ship, see, lately (since I have being doing alot of stf missions to get borg tech), I have been using my escorts. For one character I have one of the level 40 escorts (not the vector the other one) --(the one that doesn't split up----i'm assuming from what i've read, one of them can split to 3?).

Anyhow, that character, a science officer, as I said, level 40 escort, is what I been using alot , I do like the movement ability, yet I also like the canons I've equiped on it. I like to have 2 cannons, a dual phaser and torpedoe launcher on the Fore. Then I use the wide beam phasers in the back and
torpedoes.

I also have, with that character, the enterprise that you can get at level 30, (mainly because I'm a huge fan of the next gen series). I like the size of it, I wish I could load cannons, yet the movement, well, i'm gonna use it today to see if I like using such or not (it's been awhile since I used that ship).

So anyhow, I like the look of that particular cruiser, yet the movement, and the fact it can't have cannons, does bother me at times.

I also like , with cruisers, how there's a larger crew and hull (obviously), and that is why, (originally), I was liking the sound of the dreadnought, since it has both size and ability for cannons, and that lance seems powerfull from what it sounds like.

Yet the movement does bother me at times...... I don't like the small size of the escorts, but I luv their moving capabilities.

So that's where I'm at right now, I'm so undecided even still, after all the Great replies, that I even have another question posted about whether to use the zen for other things instead of a new ship LOL, that question is here if anyone wants to post their too:

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=425041

Also, jslyn, thank you too, for your advice as well.

And dracounguis , you said "If you have 70-80 million EC there are good ships on the Exchange.", I was not aware that you could buy ships through the exchange... I always thought you could just trade zen for crystals and vis-versa...?

I'm also unsure as to what "EC" are, is it a fleet thing?

I must admit to not knowing much about fleets, for I am not in one. (For many personal reasons only). And I do not plan to join one any time soon. Though I can see the logic behind it.

Anyhow, I can not remember what more I was going to say LOL, yet thank you all for your replies! I am going to take into mind, all that has been said here, I appreciate the effort and time you all have
taken to reply.

And though I'm usally a "loner" in space, I no-doubt shall be fighting along side you all against the borg at times.

So until then,

Live long and Prosper.

-Aaron
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# 29
10-26-2012, 12:57 AM
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I'm also unsure as to what "EC" are, is it a fleet thing?
EC is the acrynom for Energy Credits

It's the mainstream and original Star Trek online currency.

When you buy something from the exchange (access at ESD, SB 39, K7, donatsu system, and the S.S. Azura II console, you have to use Energy Credits (EC) to purchase from other players.

If you are a Gold member or Lifetime subscriber, the EC cap is set at a Billion

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# 30
10-26-2012, 12:57 AM
Do you know... lol, I've even become tempted (due to being so undecided), to buy the ship for 500 from the original series that kirk used, and use the rest of the zen to get character slots and perhaps a fed klingon LOL,

like I said though, there's another area for that discussion.
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