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# 61
10-25-2012, 11:21 PM
If we're onto lore, I'd note that the 29th century uniforms look a lot like TOS Romulans.

I'd probably play with the idea of Romulans trying to bring back Romulus through exotic means, getting sucked in by mirror Romulans, becoming obsessed with time travel, etc. on a path towards becoming one of the more mature and virtuous species as a result of their traumas. Maybe even becoming the leaders of the Federation in time.
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# 62
10-26-2012, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by zeuxidemus001 View Post
Pretty much what I would expect but the one thing though is any big fan of romulans/remans is going to want that Scimitar. It may just need something less on the side of instant weapon of mass destruction and probally just a super plasma torpedo console or something or 180 degree beam overload with a replacement from its thalaron core with something that is more humane LOL.
Big Romulan/Reman fans don't like what cryptic is proposing because it has nothing to do with Romulans, it's just a way for cryptic to unlock romulan ships to the fed and kdf players.

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Lets not add Romulan ships to the Federation and Klingon shipyards, I also dont find acceptable the Lockboxes ship doing that ... cross faction ships.
I would prefer 10 romulan lockboxes, rather than having Romulans turned into peace-loving vassals of Federation and KDF.
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# 63
10-26-2012, 01:10 AM
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becoming one of the more mature and virtuous species as a result of their traumas
That's very doubtful. Because I don't get why Romulans would become poor bullied refugees. They still have an empire. Just take a real life comparison: New-York and Washington, or London, or Paris, wiped out instantly. Millions of deaths. That would be sad but their respective countries would survive, find new leaders, rebuild. In no way americans, british or french would become poor beggars and renegades trying to set up some sort of utopia, especially if it's only due to natural hazards.

Just imagine part of your east coast destroyed. Would the USA become a communist heaven? I don't believe that. Still, it's Star Trek for sure but it doesn't mean it musn't be credible. Some Romulans can *try* but it doesn't mean they have to suceed.

That's the path the Romulan story is taking: an utopia. If millions of deaths would lead the way to rivers of milk and honey, butterflies and flowers, trust me, our real world would be a paradize.

I'd rather see growing tensions between Romulans and Remans. The new Romulan Utopia becoming a true facist dicatroship, under the tremendous pressure of Sela and the Tal shiar - any country under pressure tends to get closer to a dictatorship -. Even the UFP has been close to become a dictatorship under the pressure of the Dominion. How would that be realistic if a rather small, young and unestablished colony was trying to defend idealistic principles under overwhelming pressure?

Consequently, i'd see brutalized Remans and maybe a handful of supporters of the original utopia looking for Fed assistance, and Romulans, brought by D'Tan in the hands of the KDF to resist to "Reman traitors", Sela and the Tal Shiar.

Star Trek is safe: the UFP has refugees to protect and Klingons get a new ally to join their fight. By the way, it could make a great foundry series. Far more interesting than "let's build an Utopia", because flawless utopias make bad stories (see how Kirk, Picard and Sisko break Starfleet's rules repeatedly); taking this colony closer to the DS9 or even TOS spirit. Remans would take the Romulan tech to Feds and Romulans would take it to the KDF. We'd see hybrid ships in these factions, and probably the original ones in the hands of their respective owners (Remans and Romulans).

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# 64
10-26-2012, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kwiat007 View Post
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I would prefer 10 romulan lockboxes, rather than having Romulans turned into peace-loving vassals of Federation and KDF.
How about Romulans that do as they were peaceful, while spying on the Federation in the meantime to promote their own agenda? ^^


I mean, the Dev Blog isa news source. Spinned for propaganda by the Romulans...
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# 65
10-26-2012, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kwiat007 View Post
Big Romulan/Reman fans don't like what cryptic is proposing because it has nothing to do with Romulans, it's just a way for cryptic to unlock romulan ships to the fed and kdf players.
Speak for yourself. I love the Romulans... and Id much rather see them as a sub faction of the Feds/KDF than a half-finished faction (or no faction at all).

Im perfectly ok with limiting Romulan ships (Bird of Prey, Mogai, D'Deridex) to the Romulan species only. Perhaps develop new ships to fill out the ranks so a Romulan can get different ships through all ranks but also allow Romulans the use of Federation/Klingon ships too.
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# 66
10-26-2012, 02:36 AM
There was no WAR in the Romulan empire - only one planet has been destroyed, yes the homeworld, but they WERE prepared and knew about that, so they could escape.

Romulan empire is not so big as FED, but certainly bigger than KDF grounds.

Don't tell me an empire this big fells into chaos after ONE of hundreds of planets is destroyed.

(so much for their story, but OK, let's accept there is a war)

And even IF there are some separatists, who want to run to either KDF or FED - let them go!
let them have some tech!

But I really don't see how such a big empire would disappear! There IS certainly a place for a REAL romulan faction!



KDF and Romulans - they were in war for so long - the KDF would eat them alive knowing they are weak.

FED and Romulans - this could work, but only as a treaty, no assimilation into Federation possible. Analogy - imagine EU assimilating USA or the other way up.. just not possible.

As to Rom/Cardie union - NO. Why?

Cause Cardies are a bunch of self-centered fools which would not hesitate to sell their own brother to gain what they are after.

Romulans are a lot like Vulcans - logical, ORGANIZED, they want power, but they do it with TRUST to their friends in arms and they are somehow FAIR.

If cryptic is really doing this - destroying the Romulans as a whole, transforming the big Romulan Empire into an army of small puppets which is no different from the people of Defera (only able to hold an open hand and cry for help), then these are not the romulans I would play.


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PLEASE, for the sake of god which needs a spaceship - don't destroy this faction!
Is it such a big problem to
- color the UI green
- recreate icons for DOFFS
- make one building where the new Romulan HQ will be and put there some NPC's?

you have to make costumes and ships anyway, it can all be paid - we will buy this stuff anyway!! just give us ONE small starter BOP on lvl 45

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# 67
10-26-2012, 02:37 AM
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You propose an interesting view of the New Romulans... Would you let both Fed and KDF Romulans have access to the same ships in your world? Would you let Romulans fly KDF or Fed ships?
Yes, all Romulans should have access to all romulan ships. They should never be able to fly fed/kdf ships of the line.

We need a story from the romulan perspective how through cunning and infiltration they managed to not only hold of the kdf from attacking, but to get help from both FED and KDF, in return for some outdated tech.

Just for the record, I hate the idea of friggin reunifcationist running the show. I hate romulans as part of the KDF. I hate everything about this idea of merging the romulans into the two existing faction. I really don't know how to be any more clear about this. We have waited patiently for romulans, and now without finishing the KDF you are going to kill our beloved faction as well. The minute Romulans get released as Fed/KDF puppies STO is history for me.
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# 68
10-26-2012, 02:42 AM
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You propose an interesting view of the New Romulans... Would you let both Fed and KDF Romulans have access to the same ships in your world? Would you let Romulans fly KDF or Fed ships?
I think that this could be a tentative step in the right direction. The pacifists sure, but the rest of the Romulans would be an independant mini-faction at least. What I would like to see is an Asteroid base or even a secret super-carrier/ station as a starting base. (Right now I am imagining something like a Romulan Mothership - I know! Not very Star Trek-like. But, given that they have no home planet, fairly plausible. And Romulan ship design does favour huge ships, so ... mothership )

Also, these Romulans attire would be far less militaristic of the classic Romulan uniforms, and more guerilla "new-age", worn and more "Eastern-Frontish" like the German Troops in Russia at the closing stages of the Second World War

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# 69
10-26-2012, 02:49 AM
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You propose an interesting view of the New Romulans... Would you let both Fed and KDF Romulans have access to the same ships in your world? Would you let Romulans fly KDF or Fed ships?
i am vehemently apposed to romulans being added to both factions in that way, but if you had to because a 3rd faction just would not be feasible no mater what, yes, they should have access to romulan ships. like, you should buy a romulan character token that gives you a romulan captain at level cap, and a token to choose between 3 or 4 playable romulan ships. ONLY these characters should be able to use them.


if you do end up making a 3rd romulan faction, presumably sela's faction thats not friendly with fed or kdf, ONLY they should have romulan ships. no mater what else you might tag on to fed and kdf, only that 3rd faction should have romulan ships.
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# 70
10-26-2012, 02:53 AM
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You propose an interesting view of the New Romulans... Would you let both Fed and KDF Romulans have access to the same ships in your world? Would you let Romulans fly KDF or Fed ships?
Coming in from my specially created school account, I'd say both sides should have race-exclusive access to Romulan ships if they're Remans or Romulans, but be able to fly standard ships as well.

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