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Is the new Reputation really just a ?Feel Good? system, that will misrepresent a players real accomplishments..
From what I understand you can do Space or Ground missions and use the Omega or Romulan marks to purchase equipment.
What this means is a space or ground only players can purchase a MKII Ground or Space set without ever doing a single ground or space mission.

From what I can tell ?Elite Marks? will be given out and are needed to purchase MKII Gear.
There really should be two kinds of Elite Marks GROUND and SPACE.

WHY
1. This will represent a players true reputation and not promote a lie.
2. Cryptic is introducing more of a grind type system would this not increase a players time if you had to do both.

Lets be more like Star Trek rather than just feeling good about lies.

Taking a quote from vestereng

The complaint here is only that the system is called reputation and the implication of that is respect for accomplishments.
Since you never accomplished anything on the ground or space you shouldn't get the respect or the reputation for something you virtually are incapable of or havent done.


Ok this was thread high jacked so let me make my point more directly its about the truth and not making you feel good.

This thread was not about drops or restrictions

It had two points
1. The truth / your reputation should refect your actions so its honest.
2. Fact a Elite Mark(s) will be given out for every succesfull Elite STF you finish.

These Elite Marks should have two flavors Space and Ground.
So you have to run X amount space or ground missions to buy space or ground gear.

All Im saying
1. You should have to do ground missions to buy ground gear.
2. You should have to do space missions to buy space gear.

What I see happening is people playing Infected Space X amount of times and the buying both Space and Ground Gear.

These same people will show off and brag about their Space or Ground gear.
This will not in anyway refect the truth about their reputation.

So is the Reputation a "feel good get all my gear system" that doesnt refect the truth.
Should a reputation system reflect a players actions and the truth.

Either way you can still get both Ground and Space.
All Im saying is the reputation should make you do both or its a LIE!!

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# 2
10-22-2012, 07:25 AM
As much as I hate to say it: I agree...

Even Worse: Cryptic has made up their minds... Usually nothing / very little gets changed once things hit tribble.
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# 3
10-22-2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by blakes7tvseries View Post
Is the new Reputation really just a ?Feel Good? system, that will misrepresent a players real accomplishments..
From what I understand you can do Space or Ground missions and use the Omega or Romulan marks to purchase equipment.
What this means is a space or ground only players can purchase a MKII Ground or Space set without ever doing a single ground or space mission.

From what I can tell ?Elite Marks? will be given out and are needed to purchase MKII Gear.
There really should be two kinds of Elite Marks GROUND and SPACE.

WHY
1. This will represent a players true reputation and not promote a lie.
2. Cryptic is introducing more grind type system would this not increase a players time if you had to do both.

Lets be more like Star Trek rather than just feeling good about lies.
I'm not sure if you're advocating for separate elite ground and elite marks or against it. First of all, I'm pretty sure the supposedly broken system you describe is the one we have now. It isn't perfect, but it's not bad. It means that players who don't particularly like ground missions can still obtain ground items because the EDC's earned in space STF's count towards purchasing either one. Second of all, if you had separate ground and space marks, it would make them game extremely grindy. So I definitely do not agree with that. We want consolidation of currencies, not more of them. Third all, please use spell check before submitting your post on here.
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# 4
10-22-2012, 07:43 AM
People who don't do ground missions can still go through a 100,000 dilithium grind and run 50 elite STFs to get a ground set they won't use in content they don't run!

This is a travesty! A travesty I say!

This is also a lie! It's exactly what players have been asking to replace the prototype roulette ridiculousness in dozens of threads for nearly a year! It's exactly what was promised last season! It's exactly how lower Mk levels work already! All lies!

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# 5
10-22-2012, 07:45 AM
If they don't like doing ground missions......what's the point of getting the ground gear?
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# 6
10-22-2012, 07:49 AM
I'm glad I don't have to run ground missions until I think I'm fit for it! Not until they fix the bloody thing, or STO players get better at playing a normal MMO.

Personally, I don't really care. The ground gear cost dil so I'm just grinding through the tier and not buying them. Saving only for space sets.

So there you have it, an inbuilt system which gives players choice, and still offer constraints to buying a set we have no use for!
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# 7 This Goes Both Ways
10-22-2012, 07:52 AM
Some peope only do ground and others only do space.

The is about the truth not about making it easy, so you can feel good.
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# 8
10-22-2012, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by khayuung View Post
I'm glad I don't have to run ground missions until I think I'm fit for it! Not until they fix the bloody thing, or STO players get better at playing a normal MMO.

Personally, I don't really care. The ground gear cost dil so I'm just grinding through the tier and not buying them. Saving only for space sets.

So there you have it, an inbuilt system which gives players choice, and still offer constraints to buying a set we have no use for!
or for those who oinl want to run ground when they are equipped they can wait, buy their mk XII ground sets and actually run them with good stuff.
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# 9
10-22-2012, 08:01 AM
well we certainly would not want a game to make us feel good now would we?

ill take the new system. its not perfect by any means but i could not care less how other people earn there gear. they can choose any way they wish.

it should, if im right and understanding it correctly, still be massively easier to get it via playing ground elites than doing the long grind. but i dont spend my time worrying about how others got theirs.

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# 10
10-22-2012, 08:07 AM
I think his point was since it's called "reputation" shouldn't it be related to your actual accomplisments...

As in you get symbolically credited for beating maps you never did and maybe even can't.

Way I see it I carry people on the ground 9/10 anyway and I've been in elite ground's where we had rooks playing for the first time dual pistols and all and getting elite gear.

SO, just because you are wearing the armor doesn't mean you can play and that won't be the case after season 7 either so what else is new.

But I agree reputation is a bad name for the connotations of it.

However what would you call it? What system from the real world assembles this ? You pay to get to work, then you give everything away you earn ONLY for the permission to buy something ?

I don't know, china under Mao maybe or ussr.. "the camaraderie system" ?
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