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# 1 Plasma in low-level PvP
10-26-2012, 09:03 AM
I'm flying tac /escort with one of my toon, currently at captain 1 and buying stuff from exchange. I buy the cheapest Mk VIII DHCs I can find and this means polaron or plasma. Now I know that on VA plasma energy weapons are big fail but how it looks at lower levels? Are the plasma resistance armors and [Plas] shields widespread enough to invalidate plasma DHCs or not?
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# 2
10-26-2012, 09:30 AM
It tends to only be the high end shields that have Plasma resistance. For low end PvP plasma should be fine. As long by low end you mean low level.

As for high level I always find it a bit confusing. On one hand you have people going around saying people are on the 75% resistance cap as it?s so easy to get. Then you have people saying don?t use plasma due to high end shields with 20$ or 30% Plasma resistance. But surly plasma shields give no extra resistance for those already at 75% resistance?
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# 3
10-26-2012, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pottsey5g View Post
It tends to only be the high end shields that have Plasma resistance. For low end PvP plasma should be fine. As long by low end you mean low level.

As for high level I always find it a bit confusing. On one hand you have people going around saying people are on the 75% resistance cap as it?s so easy to get. Then you have people saying don?t use plasma due to high end shields with 20$ or 30% Plasma resistance. But surly plasma shields give no extra resistance for those already at 75% resistance?
danger bro. the masses in this game dont like that kind of reasoning. CUS ITS DEAD ON! +1

You applied the relevant SITUATION when considering one single iota of information about the game. Everything has its place, and the 20% plasma resistance amounts to nothing. carry on
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# 4
10-26-2012, 09:57 AM
It's -much- easier to hit full damage resistance capacity when you have +20 floating around. In Pugging, against plasma an Escort will often be at or near the max shield damage resistance cap thanks to the lolmaco lolomega, and lolborg shields.

That's why plasma sucks balls.

Much like a tranny torp oddy.

Also don't listen to emoejoe. Also joe where the hell have you been? Do you not play mechwarrior at night?

Last edited by kingofsandbox; 10-26-2012 at 09:59 AM.
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# 5
10-26-2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pottsey5g View Post
It tends to only be the high end shields that have Plasma resistance. For low end PvP plasma should be fine. As long by low end you mean low level.

As for high level I always find it a bit confusing. On one hand you have people going around saying people are on the 75% resistance cap as it?s so easy to get. Then you have people saying don?t use plasma due to high end shields with 20$ or 30% Plasma resistance. But surly plasma shields give no extra resistance for those already at 75% resistance?
Because the old myth of "everyone's at resist cap all of the time anyway" is exactly that, a myth. Subnuke will strip the buffs off the toughest of pvpers and anyone can make a mistake in their defensive power cycling. Using plasma is like giving someone a free 20% resist whenever they're debuffed or screw up, why be that generous?

I've also seen where people have claimed that shield resist stacking has been nerfed so that it's harder to hit cap, a multiplicative addition system instead of straight summation. If that's true than the 20% inherent plasma resist means more now than it ever did before.

On topic Edit: for low level PVP plasma weapons work fine, a fair number of intelligent Feds will have [dis] shields while they fight Klingons and Romulans in the games story.

Last edited by razellis; 10-26-2012 at 10:39 AM.
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# 6
10-26-2012, 10:42 AM
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Much like a tranny torp oddy.
Wow there are people that run torp oddys?
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# 7
10-26-2012, 11:11 AM
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Wow there are people that run torp oddys?
I seem to recall reading someone's combat log that says yes indeed there are, and it be yours sir. Transphasic spread 3 and 2.

You know the ship with an amazing 734 dps.
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# 8
10-26-2012, 11:45 AM
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I seem to recall reading someone's combat log that says yes indeed there are, and it be yours sir. Transphasic spread 3 and 2.

You know the ship with an amazing 734 dps.
I never fly oddys far to slow a turn rate. At a bare minimum you need a turn rate of 12 ish for a torpedo boat better yet if around 17 or higher. My torp boats do way more then 700dps in PvE.
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# 9
10-26-2012, 11:47 AM
And yet there it is that pretty combat log.

Pretty pretty combat log.

Not only that, but witnesses to the ship you flew too.

Yeah "way more" meaning what double? Triple? Even at Triple dps, you're setup is still sub par.
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# 10
10-26-2012, 11:50 AM
If you're low level PvP you can get away w/white gear tbh. Save your resources for when you're maxed out in a week or 2 at the latest.

Can't remember what PvE missions award plasma, but you can run those while you wait for the queue to pop as well.

I don't remember when it's available, but I'd probably run the Jem missions for the shields and deflector if they're available and use Polaron w/the damage boost. Use hypr engines.
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