Vesta = noobs with danoobes everywhere. But I guess good for profit.

I don't need those, but they might help, too.

I have a feeling, though, that most contributors to this thread did not get what I was trying to say...

Ah, they (we) got it. But we are past that already.

(pvp'er support group thread?! )
hi, my name is wastee and i'm addicted to broken pvp


...though, it's pvp. so i can enjoy from time to time, even when losing. only if just because of the challenge other players are to me.

Hi, my name is Roach and I'm addicted to P2W PvP poorly balanced to them skills of those whom do not try to adapt but complain that PvP is ruining everything, yada yada.......



now where is the Booze and cupcakes?

What's this about a Vesta? Sci cruiser with cannons and pets from what I gather?
Even Cryptic aren't that stupid... Right?

Just curious, but for the kdfers worried about how the vesta will balance, how does the Kar'fi compare to it? It feels like a number of the 'broken' stuff is applicable to the Karfi as well. Cannons, boff layout, and pets. Dunno about the rest, though.

9/10 times the fishie shippie is a a squish.

a couple of people pull it off tho.

QFT. Since the rise of siphons the overall level of Kar'fi pilot skill has decreased as people gravitate to the broken mechanic.

If you took away the pets it could still pin you and spike you. The only thing keeping it from ruling the galaxy is its inability to load dual A2B's. Honestly the pets keep people from using the ship to its potential.

Never ran DHC's on it outside of PvE though. It doesn't have the eng slots for Aux2ID or RCS like a KDF cruiser.

I'd buy a Flar'fi if they offered one but honestly it's a step above most other ships already so I'm not sure it needs a fleet version.

the karfi isn't really a sci ship, it is a full on carrier with 2 bays. its turn rate is 8, thats great for a carrier, and pretty good compared to fed cruisers. but it doesn't have SA, or subsystem targeting, and only an LT engineering station. it can energize very well with the varies pets it can use, and be extreamly deadly when used correctly. but it can be extreamly fragile, and has got to be the ugliest thing in game.

the vesta is going to be a sci ship with a hanger, a much better starting place. much more maneuverability, SA, and subsystem targeting. even if it just has 1 hanger, you only need 1 when you have runabouts to chain someone to death.