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# 161
11-01-2012, 07:10 AM
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Well, I for one am pretty pumped to see just what the devs are going to come up with to match this thing KDF-side.
To be honest, I DO NOT want to see it...the siphon equivalent of Vesta...that is....
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# 162
11-01-2012, 07:11 AM
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To be honest, I DO NOT want to see it...the siphon equivalent of Vesta...that is....
Oh the irony if it was so!
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# 163
11-01-2012, 07:11 AM
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No reason why the KDF can't have a Vesta similiar vessel.

They can even call it the Chancellor Class strike vessel after the Gorkon novels.
Something like;

Chancellor Class Strike vessel
Rank Required: Lt.G
Hull Strength: 29,000
Shield Modifier: 1.15
Crew: 950
Weapons: 4 Fore, 2 Aft
Device Slots: 3
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Universal, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Commander Science, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical
Base Turn Rate: 13 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.16
Sensor Analysis
Can Equip Cannons
Standard Cloak
Aux Disruptor Dual Heavy Cannons Mk XII [Acc] [Dmg]x2
1 Hangar Bay with 1 wing of Siphon Drones

No idea what the three variant special abilities would be.

or they could draw inspiration from MisterDee's Deep Scout vessel ideas.
Roach:

I have thought about this too. I really like the Gorkon series and think that it would be a nice complement to the Vesta, given that the Chancellor class become the top of the line of the KDF fleet. My only issue is aesthetic:

When I look at the book covers, the thing hardly looks different than the Vorcha, which (forgive me fellow warriors) looks like some kind of weird lobster/scorpion thingy. I recognize that it carries more troops, etc., but I would want something slightly more unique.

I like the idea for the ship, Roach, and hope that they will use it as inspiration for something new, I just wish it looked a little more distinct. For me, the Negh'Var is still my fav. How about a upgraded Negh'Var, huh? The Gorkon has the designer of the Negh'Var onboard, let's get her to work on something!

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# 164
11-01-2012, 07:15 AM
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Roach:

I have thought about this too. I really like the Gorkon series and think that it would be a nice complement to the Vesta, given that the Chancellor class become the top of the line of the KDF fleet. My only issue is aesthetic:

When I look at the book covers, the thing hardly looks different than the Vorcha, which (forgive me fellow warriors) looks like some kind of weird lobster/scorpion thingy. I recognize that it carries more troops, etc., but I would want something slightly more unique.

I like the idea for the ship, Roach, and hope that they will use it as inspiration for something new, I just wish it looked a little more distinct. For me, the Negh'Var is still my fav. How about a upgraded Negh'Var, huh? The Gorkon has the designer of the Negh'Var onboard, let's get her to work on something!
Its not like "looks" is a huge Klingon concern. What do you plan to do with this vessel? Fight or cruise the Keth lowlands like a common Slarg on payday?

just joking.
I have no doubts the Dev team will give it a good body design.
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# 165
11-01-2012, 07:15 AM
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To be honest, I DO NOT want to see it...the siphon equivalent of Vesta...that is....
Seems as fair to me as a Danube Vesta...........
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# 166
11-01-2012, 07:16 AM
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Its not like "looks" is a huge Klingon concern. What do you plan to do with this vessel? Fight or cruise the Keth lowlands like a common Slarg on payday?

just joking.
I have no doubts the Dev team will give it a good body design.
Isn't the answer to your question obvious? Cruise the lowlands! Or ride on up to Sorie's new social zone=)

And after I'm done cruisin, blast some Feddies in my fine ride.

Remember my friend it is multi-mission vessel=)

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# 167
11-01-2012, 07:20 AM
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Isn't the answer to your question obvious? Cruise the lowlands! Or ride on up to Sorie's new social zone=)

And after I'm done cruisin, blast some Feddies in my fine ride.

Remember my friend it is multi-mission vessel=)
I had forgotten about Sori's new social zone......
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# 168
11-01-2012, 07:22 AM
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I had forgotten about Sori's new social zone......
You have a nice beard in it. He showed me a few days ago.

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# 169
11-01-2012, 07:24 AM
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Danubes are a completely unrelated issue, I don't think it should be tied to the Vesta. Danubes are also very useful to regular carriers, with a very low turnrate, they allow them to use frontal dps - something which isn't reasonable to do without danubes. If you nerf them you'll severely nerf carriers, and it will allow escorts to tank even more, if they aren't stopped from tanking like mad by tractor beams anymore.

So, nerfing danubes is something you should consider twice, because if you do that you will:
- make carriers useless in pvp. Their turnrate is too low not to be compensated by tractor beams. Most of the time, escorts are immune anyway, and i've never seen a good cruiser really annoyed by danubes.
- make escorts even more powerful, since danubes are one of the main ways to stop them from tanking like mad without any team support. Actually, when I fly my temporal destroyer, danubes are almost the only way to take me down with the snb doff or a tremendous amount of teamwork.

If you nerf danubes them you should also nerf:
- escorts shields. No escort should have a shield modifier superior to 0.85 (including the armittage).
- attack pattern doffs. It makes regular tractor beam useless and gives escort a permanent immunity to them.
this is utter bs dude...........my cat box carrier dont even use tb pets and can tank 3 escourts just fine. a sci carrier or engy carrier will not do dps. its not there for it. its tghere to soak up damage and heal a team.
also attack pattern doffs dont bring omega below global. i can always carry 2 omega 1 and with 2 attack pattern doffs i can use omega 3. oh and btw with tb pets im locked in tractors even with omega and ph with dampners skilled to 6..............

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# 170
11-01-2012, 07:45 AM
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You have a nice beard in it. He showed me a few days ago.
Thats just the back-up incase this one breaks.
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