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# 1 Mirror Universe Vessels
11-01-2012, 06:43 AM
Put simply, are they worth it? Short of having the same ships (alternated) with some Boff differences (pretty much switched) are these things really worth much? To purchase a 2nd Tier #5 ship from the Dock is going to cost me around 120,000 in Dilithium, that's a good 15 days of hard grinding.

Failing that, I can pay between 100 and 500 for a Mirror Universe Vessel via the Exchange. Think the Science Vessels are going for around 100/200, the Engineering Vessels are going for 400/500.

If there is little (to any) difference between them, then I might as well get a Mirror Universe Vessel and put my Dilithium towards Zen Conversion.
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# 2
11-01-2012, 07:01 AM
Depends on who you ask. Personally I love the mirror vessels because they're easy to get via exchange and they're a damn sight cheaper to boot. It also gives you flexibility with the appearance of your vessel. Say you hate the standard recon sci ship but want it's setup while you love the deep space sci ship but hate it's consoles, you can go for the mirror recon, keep the look you like and get the setup you want.

Beyond that they're decent enough vessels in and of themselves (hands up anyone who's been in an STF WITHOUT seeing a Mirror Assault Cruiser?) and can compete fairly well at the top level.

As an added bonus you get an extra 'skin' choice with the mirror material too.

Bottom line is it comes down to personal choice and wealth, it's much easier to pay a couple of hundred thousand EC than working your backside off to part with dilithium you could be spending on Zen.
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# 3
11-01-2012, 07:07 AM
Federation Mirror Universe ships are exactly the same as prime universe ships except their skins have been swapped. As consoles go they are identical to their prime universe counterparts.

KDF mirror ships are usually alternate console and BOff setups for the ship, and in some cases better *cough Mirror Qin *cough.
I personally find the Mirror Vor'cha to be interesting, but not quite my can of worms, not enough tactical options (hence why I fly a Tor'Kaht), but someone who wanted a more sciency feel will go for it.

The Mirror Qin is a great ship, and it allows you to run full cannons on the heavy raptor without wasting a BOff slot. Also that added ENGINEERING ensign significantly increases it's survivability. Basically, it's a different ship but only in BOff slots, unlike the Vor'Cha which I believe is different in consoles only (I may or may not be wrong, don't have one/fly one and atm am too tired to look in the wiki for confirmation).

So it's up to you. If it were up to me (federation me that is), I would use the free ship token to get an escort (patrol or advanced), and then use 150-250k ecs to get myself a Mirror cruiser or science vessel. Saves on dil, and you just have a slightly different appearance. Me likey savey my dilithium XD.
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# 4
11-01-2012, 09:08 AM
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The Mirror Qin is a great ship, and it allows you to run full cannons on the heavy raptor without wasting a BOff slot. Also that added ENGINEERING ensign significantly increases it's survivability. Basically, it's a different ship but only in BOff slots, unlike the Vor'Cha which I believe is different in consoles only (I may or may not be wrong, don't have one/fly one and atm am too tired to look in the wiki for confirmation).
I agree completely with this. I mean, it's essentially the KDF equal to a Patrol Escort with a cloak. To me, that is REALLY nice. I bought one for my KDF Tac, and have thought about getting one for my Eng as well.

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# 5
11-01-2012, 09:12 AM
I would imagine that Escort mirror-variants are on the horizon too (in whatever next lockbox theme), since we've already had Science and Engineering mirror ships.
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# 6
11-01-2012, 09:23 AM
Agree on the escorts, Fed-side, but what will the KDF-alternative be?

BoP's? Negh'Vars? Vu'Qov?
They don't have a whole lot of choice, other than these, unless I'm forgetting things.

They've had Vor'cha and Qin, so BoP or Vu'Qov would seem logical in terms of ship categories...
I'd immediately sign for a mirror BoP, so I can get my Sci and Eng a back-up BoP on the cheap ^^
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# 7
11-01-2012, 09:30 AM
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Agree on the escorts, Fed-side, but what will the KDF-alternative be?

BoP's? Negh'Vars? Vu'Qov?
They don't have a whole lot of choice, other than these, unless I'm forgetting things.

They've had Vor'cha and Qin, so BoP or Vu'Qov would seem logical in terms of ship categories...
I'd immediately sign for a mirror BoP, so I can get my Sci and Eng a back-up BoP on the cheap ^^
I could see a tactical-heavy Vu'qov... that would be awesome.
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# 8
11-01-2012, 09:36 AM
Thing to note is though Mirror in this game was supposed to be opposite of the Prime yet Mirror recon and deep space are the same.
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# 9
11-01-2012, 10:22 AM
most mirror ships are better buys then the dil store versions, but the mirror recon sci ship has the turn rate of the deep space sci which is worse so that one may not be such a good buy.
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# 10
11-01-2012, 10:28 AM
I am a fan of the mirror universe ships and have built up quite a collection for the KDF ones and well as FED. I personally have a Star Cruiser as my ship while it's look is of a Enterprise E I would not change it for the normal version. all we need is a MU bridge to make it a proper Mu ship
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