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You just have to love this guy - he's the only one there that tries his hardest not to dance around tough issues and smack down players hard.

Dan Stahl really should run for political office - he's got that politician talking points down pat.

Al - he just says what he wants and we either have to like it or lump it.

I don't know - a lot of players are spoiled and don't like his attitude - but I think it's refreshing.

Al I certainly hope you go through with your planned nerf to cannons - it's a fantastic Idea!!

(Mods - this is mostly just a general comment about Al based on several interviews and not fully related to the last interview - except for the nerfing cannons part- so I hope it does not get merged)

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03-06-2013, 04:05 PM
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Al : Please for the love of God go through with your planned nerf to cannons - don't worry about what players whine about(not that you do - just saying)!!
And yours is not a whine? uh huh. w/e
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03-06-2013, 04:05 PM
Forumers Note: Trying to troll more than one thing, in more than one way in a single thread is generally not recommended for this exact reason.
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03-06-2013, 04:12 PM
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Forumers Note: Trying to troll more than one thing, in more than one way in a single thread is generally not recommended for this exact reason.
Ok so you find his example of nerfing cannons trolling - what's the second thing?

Ok I like another interview when he was asked about increasing the hull strenght of the Bop - because the Fed HEC got a boost and he was like :

" Ah - yeah well (little laugh) NO"

I will pick out some other example from some other interiews.
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03-06-2013, 04:13 PM
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You just have to love this guy - he's the only one there that tries his hardest not to dance around tough issues and smack down players hard.

Dan Stahl really should run for political office - he's got that politician talking points down pat.

Al - he just says what he wants and we either have to like it or lump it.

I don't know - a lot of players are spoiled and don't like his attitude - but I think it's refreshing.

Al : Please for the love of God go through with your planned nerf to cannons - don't worry about what players whine about(not that you do - just saying)!!

(Mods - this is mostly just a general comment about Al based on several interviews and not fully related to the last interview - except for the nerfing cannons part- so I hope it does not get merged)
who let the troll out ? im pretty sure trolling is against forums TOS
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03-06-2013, 04:20 PM
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who let the troll out ? im pretty sure trolling is against forums TOS
I changed the OP to reflect better a comment from his last interview - about nerfing cannons - and my opinion of it.

The main point was that I like a dev who is not affraid to step into the frying pan. I think from listening to all the devs - Al is definitely one who is not.

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03-06-2013, 04:26 PM
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# 8
03-06-2013, 04:43 PM
There's a great bunch of folks at Cryptic that try to make Dan's job easier...

...then there's Al.


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# 9
03-06-2013, 04:46 PM
an excerpt of a conversation on the DHC changes and other things....

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Player1: they gonna nerf DHCs rather than fix the beam and lower cannon system.

Player2: I've said it before and i will say it again, <edit> is an idiot..really wish he had left instead of some of teh other devs that have left over the years...

Player1: No doubt, He is definately going the wrong direction on this. Its gonna hurt KDf fairly well if the nerf is big enough. We use cannons way more thn feds by design of our ships. I hate this crap.

Player1: The fact that healing is so over the top still and DHCs where all that really punched it is going make PvP slower.

Player1: I would have prefered they buffs Beam Arrays instead ( even give them a low ACC mod inherent) fix all other beams and subcannons accordingly and be done.

Player3: He is a fed fanboy, he has always disliked teh KDF, this is the guy that last year decided to increase turn rates on fed escorts while saying KDF raptors were fine as is, despite having a broken <edit>

Player2: also from what someone told me that managed to listen to teh whole rambling interveiw teh only new KDF Ship were likely to get anytime soon is yet ANNOTHER cruiser...like we need more of those

Player1: looks like <edit> the flimflam man is crawfishing again.

Player1: we are supossed to have "substantional" content in the May thingy. His words

Player3: i never believe a word that comes outa <edit>TheUntrustworthy's mouth

Player1: I would hope that meant a new tutorial, some low level content to draw new fresh players, and some ships, costume stuff. Not a large part of the May thingy but substantional.

Player2: From what i can gather that substantial content is a tutorial revamp and thats it

Player1: <edit>.

Player3: maybe a couple more fleet ships if were lucky

Player1: thats not of any substance on its own.

Player2: nope, a new tutorial is worthless if they dont reintroduce lvl 1-20 with content to go with it and a emoval of teh neccesity of being a lvl 24 fed before KDF even opens

Player1: we need content to draw the new player and shinnies to keep the old players interested otherwise they never grow the new KDF fans with no content to level up on and the old guys get bored and stop spe

Player1: spendng money on the game. they lose a small but none the less important revenue stream.

Player2: A lot of teh problem is <edit>..when he left for 6 months teh KDF got a shed load of ships on store, after he returned we got squat again...he has NEVER wanted to do anything for teh KDF

Player2: I havnt spent a cent in 12 months, i wont buy fed crap and i already own nearly all teh KDF stuff apart from teh awfull bridge packs

Player3: I just get sick and tired of them saying 'KDF stuff is coming!' then when it gets close to them having to deliver they change it to 'we cant justify it atm..maybe later'

Player2: I want a 5 tac console raptor with a decent (non broken) turn rate, feds have what? 3 or 4 now and we have none

Player1: I would like a fleet BoP with a Ensign Uslot, a fleet Somraw Raptor platform with 5 fore/2 aft - five console Tac, and a Regent Class fleet ship at Tier 5 thats what the BortasQu should have been.

Player2: yep, bet we dont get anything like those though

Player1: <edit> no, they fear us as it is.

Player1: Doesnt mean they should go for the revenue potential of making sadi Fleet ships which cost us $20 a pop.

Player2: from what i can gather the ship were getting is a bigger Neghvar from what he said..so annother space whale like the bortas.....and they wonder why some KDF ships dont sell well

Player3: They just seem to totally ignore what type of ships KDF players ask for, yet when feds demand ships they get just what they want

Player1: It is a shameful habit from way back in STO's history. Sadly.

Player2: And thst why i hate <edit>, he makes teh ship decisions and its obvious he has a complete fed bias when it comes to ships

Player1: They have given us many things though over a long period of time. I can not say otherwise. I just dont get why they dont jump on the oportunity of finishing the KDF in the next few seasons and be done

Player1: they would have it built and only have to worry on endgame and shinnies. The RSe could be the next full scale project unhundered by us.

Player2: They dont want to, its obvious by this point....they just keep hopeing that if they keep neglecting the KDF it will die and they can then move on to teh rommies

Player1: It does seem that way.... I hear MWO is fun.

Player1: but its not Klingon or Star Trek.

Player2: i was daft enough to get a lifetime to this so ill probably stay untill they eventually shut teh KDF down
I can say that the chatter about its effects on the KDF, among other things, is on the KDF fanbases minds.

I hope they are wrong about all that has been said though but history doesnt give it a good feeling.

I just find it funny that this type of thread like the OP has started pops up again to rub other players noses for fun.
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# 10
03-06-2013, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
You just have to love this guy - he's the only one there that tries his hardest not to dance around tough issues and smack down players hard.

Dan Stahl really should run for political office - he's got that politician talking points down pat.

Al - he just says what he wants and we either have to like it or lump it.

I don't know - a lot of players are spoiled and don't like his attitude - but I think it's refreshing.

Al I certainly hope you go through with your planned nerf to cannons - it's a fantastic Idea!!

(Mods - this is mostly just a general comment about Al based on several interviews and not fully related to the last interview - except for the nerfing cannons part- so I hope it does not get merged)
I found Al hard to take during the drought. I have what I think would be reasonable disagreements with him over how to analyze metrics and economic theories.

I don't think he's unreasonable though nor do I disagree overall with his opinions, based on where he's coming from. Now, I think "where he's coming from" might be flawed... But I'm willing to admit that a lot of that may come from lack of exposure to the guy.

I listened to the whole 4 hour broadcast and almost every time he said something that I disagreed with, he followed up by qualifying the statement in a way that showed he thought through the issue... and most of the time wound up suggesting the counter-examples or ideas I would have posted here before I could type them.

By and large, anything he said that MIGHT have been seen as blunt or insulting was something that, given time to speak, he was able to place into a meaningful context or reveal possible exceptions to.

Six months ago, I was very iffy on the guy. I went into this last interview thinking he was a guy who needed to explain where he was coming from more... and by and large not only did so to my satisfaction but in such a way that I wish I worked for a guy like this. Not because I agree with him fully but because he showed how much he thinks through things.

Sure. The blunt comments were there. But unlike with his Twitter comments, they had context this time. So I have growing respect and admiration for the guy.
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