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# 31
11-04-2012, 11:29 AM
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supposed to be top tier ship should be powerful.
top tier ship or not , a science vessel is a science vessel
its not suddenly going to have more weapon slots

4/4 cruisers
4/3 escorts
3/3 science ships

how its always been for federation ships , how it always will be
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# 32
11-04-2012, 01:19 PM
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how its always been for federation ships , how it always will be
Barriog us getting a new teir anyway.
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# 33
11-04-2012, 01:25 PM
It's not even out yet... Why not wait, to see if it really is so first?
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# 34
11-04-2012, 01:44 PM
lol thats too easy , all people do is look at stats and start bemoaning the demise of pvp etc
regardless of the fact that it mostly depends more on the player than the ship itself
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# 35
11-04-2012, 02:04 PM
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lol thats too easy , all people do is look at stats and start bemoaning the demise of pvp etc
regardless of the fact that it mostly depends more on the player than the ship itself
The demise of pvp? Like pvp has mattered in the past. I will take those people seriously the day pvp gets its promised complete revamp. "Nothing will stay the way it used to be" if I recall correctly? In the current setup it's the Klingons who are overpowered and the BUG ship has already broken whatever balance there once might have been.
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# 36
11-04-2012, 02:07 PM
doesnt stop people going on about every time a new ship comes , i remember the uproar when the armitage was announced lol

end of the day , its a ship like most others , yes its got gimmicks , but until the community at large has gotten its hands on it , theres no real way ( short of being one of the few lucky testers on tribble ) to know just how effective they will be
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# 37
11-04-2012, 02:21 PM
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Vesta (science)


Pros:
-3x DHC that run off Aux power
....
Could you please explain to me where you red that it comes with 3x DHC that run off Aux?

Acording to the description, it comes with one cannon. Maybe it is like the Defiant Quad Phasers that you can only mount one at a time, which i think is highly possible.

So if you have "normal" weapons and the aux cannon, it will be hard to maintain high aux and weapon power to use them effective together, without draining to much from the other systems.

I could imagine one or two builds where the aux based cannon might be more useful then a normal one that runs on weapon energy. But that subject needs testing.

Basically it is probably better to use normal canons on it and boost your aux when needed with batteries.

But generally this is just as speculative as the rest of the thread about how good it might be.

We will finally see it when the Vesta will be on Holodeck. And yes, i am planning to get one.
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# 38
11-04-2012, 02:26 PM
its subject to change , but branflakes mentioned that the unlike the quads , they AUX cannons can be used in multiples

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Here are our questions:

Does each variant include an Aux DHC?

Can you equip 3 Aux DHC at one time?

Can other ships equip the Aux DHC if they can normally equip Dual Heavy Cannons?
Yes*.

Yes*.

Yes*.

*subject to change

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# 39
11-04-2012, 05:15 PM
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It's not even out yet... Why not wait, to see if it really is so first?
Because they don't change ships specs once released to the public. The rage of people buying a ship for real money and having it nerfed afterwards is overwhelming. It's the same reason they wouldn't dream of nerfing the Jem bugs.

Besides, we've all been playing this game long enough to look at a ships paper specs and know exactly what it's going to be capable of,
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# 40
11-04-2012, 05:56 PM
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Because they don't change ships specs once released to the public. The rage of people buying a ship for real money and having it nerfed afterwards is overwhelming. It's the same reason they wouldn't dream of nerfing the Jem bugs.

Besides, we've all been playing this game long enough to look at a ships paper specs and know exactly what it's going to be capable of,
Were you around when they released the Armitage? The Hull HP that was listed at first was a fair bit higher than the actual release, and they edited the blog post on it after first posting specs. On top of that, the hull has been buffed since release (now almost what they first posted at 32K). They can and do edit ship specs both pre- and post-release. Krenn and Korath had reversed device slot numbers, if you had three devices on the Krenn that patch put the extra device in your over-flow bag even.

They don't nerf the Jem bug because it's an incredible money-maker. When they want some extra money, they just attach a chance for it to something.
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