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# 121
11-03-2012, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
how is anyone supposed to tank when there are hits that take between 90-100% of your heath every 30 seconds?
They dont, if you are going to be oneshooted no matter what at least in a escort you can actually do some damage before you go down.

This is a PURE DPS race, the way things are set there is no strategy involved outside unloading everything you have before you are inevitable killed.

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Originally Posted by timelord79 View Post
I couldn't do the same thing in Elite, but a dedicated tank might just be able to do it, assuming he gets help and heals from his 4 other team mates.
Not only you are assuming a hell lot but also no amount of healing can offset the amount of damage they can pull out, also how you going to even do it with the Tractor Beams, Great Balls of Death and Probe Tractors as well Regen Spheres all over the place?

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# 122
11-03-2012, 04:11 PM
STAGE ONE:

Focus fire on ONE cube at a time do not agro ALL the cubes.


STAGE TWO:

Stay on the INSIDE next to the queen ship. Focus fire on REGEN PROBES and PLASMA TORPS as they appear. Target one B'Ger at a time and BE PATIENT they have a lot of hull to chew. If a Regen appears drop what you are doing and shoot it. SUBNUKE the B'Ger periodically to disable the reflection shield.

STAGE THREE:

Fire everything. Subnuke the Queen ship and use subsystem disabling attacks. Keep her AUX offline if possible. DPS her into submission.


This is not a DPS free-for-all where you can blitz the map in 10 min and pocket a load of salvage. You have to develop a strategy and coordinate.
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# 123
11-03-2012, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
no amount of healing can offset the amount of damage they can pull out
I've been able to do that. Why would you think that because you can't do it or don't know how to do it no one can? It's a bit arrogant...
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# 124
11-03-2012, 04:16 PM
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I've been able to do that. Why would you think that because you can't do it or don't know how to do it no one can? It's a bit arrogant...
I beat the mission in an Excelsior running Pol Hull and Subspace Modulator, MACO shields, capacity console and not much else in the way of healing. Eng 1 I think.
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# 125
11-03-2012, 04:23 PM
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I beat the mission in an Excelsior running Pol Hull and Subspace Modulator, MACO shields, capacity console and not much else in the way of healing. Eng 1 I think.
I've done it in a galor, tanked the cigares, tanked the queen as long as our burden pick up didn't get closer than 5km. A galor isn't really a tanky ship. Sure it's a cruiser and it's resilient but I can't imagine how one could die in an odyssey for instance.

But peole keep saying "it's too hard if i can't zerg the boss and dps race it" (that's what the current STFs are), instead of admitting they can progress and learn some tips to overcome the challenges.
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# 126
11-03-2012, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
But peole keep saying "it's too hard if i can't zerg the boss and dps race it" (that's what the current STFs are), instead of admitting they can progress and learn some tips to overcome the challenges.
Yeah... what he said! +1
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# 127
11-03-2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by timelord79 View Post
This I can agree with.
Normal Mode Hive was easily as difficult as previous mission Elites, and that's fine. Other games have this issue and the solution is usually just to improve the awards on the newer content. I think that's perfectly fair for these.

One thing I'm finding I don't like, however, is that there is simply no loot drop at all from the boss.

After finishing a climactic battle with the Borg Queen on ground and space, walking away from the instances with just a handful of tokens feels very unrewarding. There is typically a balance to be found with any type of token system of progression and actually having a physical loot reward as well. I realize all the major set components are being moved to the Reputation system at that is fine, but having the Queen drop, say, a blue quality VA console (completely random type) on normal, with one of better quality on Elite would not be an unwelcome move.

It really irked me to walk away from the fights empty handed. I realize that the Omega Marks are supposed to more than make up for no loot, but you are still leaving players in a position where there's no sense of immediate gratification in your new reward system, and that's a rather dangerous thing.
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# 128
11-03-2012, 04:35 PM
Incidentally, can we have a ignore user? this is vBulletin and I know there is a option for that.
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# 129 no reward drops
11-03-2012, 04:54 PM
myself and 4 of my fleet mates just did the hive onslaught (normal) and only 1 of the members got rewards. no others did.
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# 130
11-03-2012, 05:11 PM
played the normal version on tribble with a PUG

...we did beat it

it was fun

because it was a little challenging (some players died, not me)

the borg diamond certainly was fun to fight with all the different abilities it used and took some time to get its shields down.

i knew the map from a Foundry mission that i played about a year ago.
well at least the background graphics (skybox) is around for a while now.


but... there was a lack of regeneration on the Borgs end, there need to be more regeneration drones for the 2 B'Gers and the Diamond did not regenerate at all.

Did not play elite yet, maybe there will be more of that.


Anyway, i've beaten it on the first try ...with a pug.
That says to me, that this one is TOO EASY.
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